Big Picture Stuff

[jazznik]

Wasn't that supposed to be Springer's role, once he signed last year?

No. Springer played just a handful of games over several NBA seasons, 5 MPG for Boston this season and 7MPG the season before. He mostly played garbage minutes throughout his NBA career and because of that has no meaningful experience of playing in the games that matter and with players who matter.

 

[The Midnight]

I think we really need a center that can dribble. I'm pretty sure the next innovation in NBA defenses is going to be just sending two guys at the ball handler when the center is setting the pick and can't dribble. You need your center to be able to dribble to the paint in that situation. Kessler is not that guy so I feel weird about him long-term, but we don't have easy replacements either. But this is a player type we need to look out for in the draft.

Agreed.

I know people don’t give two ***** about you around here but this is a GREAT point.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

How do we turn the franchise around? Draft better. Easier said than done, but some teams just do it better regardless of their position. Hire better brains or listen closer to the brains we have... whatever we need to do.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Also, I think drafting well has a lot to do with how you develop the guys you draft. Some teams develop under a coach and style better than others. It seems like OKC said, the cheapest points in the league come from turnovers so let's invest in a system that creates a lot of turnovers. Then they executed on it.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Finally, the 2 teams in the finals have elite playmakers. They are both tall guards that score at all 3 levels, play both sides of the court, and make the right plays.

Is Collier watching to see what he needs? Because he has the ability to be a player that makes the right plays and that plays defense. If he can learn to shoot and clean up his turnovers, we may just have that guy.

 

[YoungJefe]

Last two title teams:

MVP caliber star: SGA | Tatum
High level robin two way wing: Williams | Brown
Versatile 7 foot big that can space: Chet | Porzingis
Versatile defensive perimeter guy: Dort | Holiday
Veteran rim protecting big: Hartenstein | Horford
Veteran energy lock down guard: Caruso | White

 

[YoungJefe]

Finally, the 2 teams in the finals have elite playmakers. They are both tall guards that score at all 3 levels, play both sides of the court, and make the right plays.

Is Collier watching to see what he needs? Because he has the ability to be a player that makes the right plays and that plays defense. If he can learn to shoot and clean up his turnovers, we may just have that guy.

Collier will never be on the same level as Haliburton or SGA

 

[Tremendous Upside]

It'd be incredibly painful to see VJ going to a terrible joke of a franchise like Charlotte, to waste his career playing with a ballhogging social media clown and a felon. SMH…

The Jazz should be doing whatever they can to get him, but my trust in Ainge is pretty much zero at this point.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I'm not sure that this isn't a win/win trade, or at least a lot closer than we may think. I don't think the Bulls feel bad about the swap. Fit is perhaps better on both sides. Giddey may still end up providing more long-term value.

I think it's closer to a win/win for sure. Each player is more valuable on the other team than they were in their previous team. But that is still kind of the point. The fact that a guy with half of the production is considered a win/win is progress.

In my opinion it is better to aquire an elite role player that can be part of an offensive and defensive scheme than a more productive player that will always leave you vulnerable on one side of the ball. Yes, you eventually need to find your star player to generate offense, but it's worth waiting for someone that isn't a complete defensive liability.

 

[KqWIN]

One big picture thing I am buying into is the possession game. Offensive Rebounds/Turnovers are more important than ever. Shot distribution was the low hanging fruit, but teams have now course corrected. Offensive efficiency is very high so each possession gained or lost is extra important.

 

[fishonjazz]

One big picture thing I am buying into is the possession game. Offensive Rebounds/Turnovers are more important than ever. Shot distribution was the low hanging fruit, but teams have now course corrected. Offensive efficiency is very high so each possession gained or lost is extra important.

Agreed.

 

[HeatCheck]

It'd be incredibly painful to see VJ going to a terrible joke of a franchise like Charlotte, to waste his career playing with a ballhogging social media clown and a felon. SMH…

The Jazz should be doing whatever they can to get him, but my trust in Ainge is pretty much zero at this point.

Be prepared to be disappointed because Tony Jones already leaked they currently have no intention of trading up.

Based on his tweets I'm going to believe they end up with either Ace or Tre...whoever falls to 5 assuming Charlotte picks VJ. Tony believes all 3 are in the same tier with similar ceilings although Ace has the lowest floor. He's been the unofficial mouthpiece so no reason to doubt him.

They just mainly need to hit on a good player at this point. If they believe all 3 are on the same tier as prospects they won't give up assets just to move up to #3 or #4. Not saying I agree or disagree but that appears to be their thinking.