Billboard vandalized.

[Gameface]

Are Atheist really mad that our founding fathers built this country to be a God fearing nation?

No, atheists are unhappy that Christians are trying to rewrite history and turn this secular nation into a Christian one. There's no doubt the majority of Americans are and have always been Christians. There's also no doubt that this nation was radically secular when it was crated. The two things can live together in perfect harmony if you'd just let it.

Tell me, what changes about our nation if it is in fact Christian? Does that mean persecuting non-Christians is okay? What exactly is it that Christians think they get by calling this a Christian nation?

 

[Bronco70]

What exactly is it that Christians think they get by calling this a Christian nation?

Apparently they get your jockeys in a wad.

Relax - some dude on a message board proclaiming the USA a christian nation doesn't make it so.

 

[TroutBum]

Apparently they get your jockeys in a wad.

Relax - some dude on a message board proclaiming the USA a christian nation doesn't make it so.

 

[VINYLONE]

While I don't necessarily agree with the message, the athiests did pay for the billboard and the asshats that defaced it should pay for the damages.

Yup.

 

[Hearsky]

A look back at quotes from our founding fathers...

""Lighthouses are more useful than churches" -- Ben Franklin

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." -- Thomas Jefferson

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it” -- John Adams

“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion” -- John Adams

 

[The-Joker]

A look back at quotes from our founding fathers...

""Lighthouses are more useful than churches" -- Ben Franklin

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." -- Thomas Jefferson

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it” -- John Adams

“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion” -- John Adams

Well we all know that those guys changed their minds when they wanted to be baptized in the St. George temple.

/sarcasm (maybe)

 

[Gameface]

Apparently they get your jockeys in a wad.

Relax - some dude on a message board proclaiming the USA a christian nation doesn't make it so.

I thought it was a ligit question. Beantown isn't the only person I've ever heard this from, by far. What gets my panties in a bunch is how these guys can believe this as much as they do, despite not only the complete lack of anything tying this nation to Christianity in our constitution, but the downright rejection of a connection between church and state (I know that phrase doesn't appear in our constitution) by many of them.

Not to mention some treaty with Tripoli or something, that flat out says that the U.S. is NOT a Christian nation.

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

What I find funny about that part is that if Obama was to sign a treaty that said any such thing the R's would go completely ape ****.

 

[sirkickyass]

The nation's relationship with religion is certainly complicated. I mean, until the 14th Amendment applied the protections of the 1st Amendment to the states, individual states could declare an official state religion. The Congregational Church was on the books as the official religion of the State of Massachuessetts until the 1830s. The Pre-U.S. Constitution Massachussetts Constitution explicitly acknowledged the presence of religion in government. New Hampshire required all members of the state legislature to be Protestants until deep into the 19th Century.

Similarly, states could tax churches which presently is likely unconstitutional as long as they remain within their church functions (since the power to tax is the power to destroy and all).

The absolute best resource on these early America issues is the Library of Congress. Some of the original documents they have scans of are mind-boggling.

 

[Scat]

Why is Tom Selleck featured on such a poster? And at what time did George Carlin have such a long beard?? John Lithgow in a puffy pirate shirt??? I guess I just don't understand the message that this poster is trying to put accross.

 

[honz]

I'd just like to point out that most of the billboard/sign defacing is done by the conservative/religious crowd. Oh, and assassinations as well...

Flame away!

 

[Bronco70]

I thought it was a ligit question. Beantown isn't the only person I've ever heard this from, by far. What gets my panties in a bunch is how these guys can believe this as much as they do, despite not only the complete lack of anything tying this nation to Christianity in our constitution, but the downright rejection of a connection between church and state (I know that phrase doesn't appear in our constitution) by many of them.

I understand that. I just don't understand is why it bothers you so much.

 

[Gameface]

I understand that. I just don't understand is why it bothers you so much.

Because they're on the offensive and I see a religious nation as a real threat to my life, as an Atheist.