Bin Laden is dead

[SaltyDawg]

I find it all very interesting to see where people stand in terms of international law and personal ethics when it comes to dealing with situations like this. For every hypothetical given it seems the masses are on the side of "kill them all, let God/Allah/The Flying Spaghetti Monster/Vishnu/The Universe sort them out" regardless of any violated international laws.

I guess my belief that we should follow the laws we have agreed to puts me in the minority.

I thank God OBL is gone. I also thank God that by all accounts we did it within the bounds of the law.

It is also interesting, even a little disturbing, how up in arms people get about international law in terms of torturing terrorists to get intel to stop future attacks and how absolutely fine people would be in completely ignoring international law to shoot one in the head to stop future attacks. So torture=bad, murder=good in terms of stopping terrorist attacks.

You honestly can't understand why someone would be against a policy that allows torture pretty much anytime, but still be all for Bin Laden getting killed?

 

[Gameface]

I find it all very interesting to see where people stand in terms of international law and personal ethics when it comes to dealing with situations like this. For every hypothetical given it seems the masses are on the side of "kill them all, let God/Allah/The Flying Spaghetti Monster/Vishnu/The Universe sort them out" regardless of any violated international laws.

I guess my belief that we should follow the laws we have agreed to puts me in the minority.

I thank God OBL is gone. I also thank God that by all accounts we did it within the bounds of the law.

It is also interesting, even a little disturbing, how up in arms people get about international law in terms of torturing terrorists to get intel to stop future attacks and how absolutely fine people would be in completely ignoring international law to shoot one in the head to stop future attacks. So torture=bad, murder=good in terms of stopping terrorist attacks.

I agree with you completely. Integrity, it's a bitch sometimes.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I agree with you completely. Integrity, it's a bitch sometimes.

Killing Bin Laden is not even remotely close to the same thing (or nearly as bad) as torturing everyone we interrogate.

Much like your poker games being illegal doesn't mean you have no integrity when you speak out against a murderer/rapist/burglar/car thief/drug dealer/etc.

 

[Scat]

killing bin laden is not even remotely close to the same thing (or nearly as bad) as torturing everyone we interrogate.

Much like your poker games being illegal doesn't mean you have no integrity when you speak out against a murderer/rapist/burglar/car thief/drug dealer/etc.

ziiiiing!!

 

[Scat]

 

[DutchJazzer]

you know what? I agree with you in that if obl surrendered, then they capture him and take him somewhere to extract all information from him that they can. But i also think that if he did not immediately indicate that he was surrendering, a bullet to the head was his just reward. As for the seals "executing" him, they're not cops or even swat. they're elite soldiers trained to save lives(they are in the business of saving lives. When they send the seals in, they're not going in to simply arrest someone. Is it that hard to understand? You call it "execution". I call it "eliminating the enemy". Tomato, tomahto.

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[Scat]

You know what? I agree with you in that if OBL surrendered, then they capture him and take him somewhere to extract all information from him that they can. But I also think that if he did not immediately indicate that he was surrendering, a bullet to the head was his just reward. As for the SEALs "executing" him, they're not cops or even SWAT. They're elite soldiers trained to kill. When they send the SEALs in, they're not going in to simply arrest someone. Is it that hard to understand? You call it "execution". I call it "eliminating the enemy". Tomato, tomahto.

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And they just saved thousands by taking out the one person that was rallying a terrorist organization against the free world to kill innocent civilians.

Tomato. Tahmato.

 

[SaltyDawg]

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I'm sure killing Bin Laden saved countless lives. They have already made public the planned attacks on trains and bridges on the 10th anniversary of 9-11, so the SEALs did save plenty of lives.

 

[moevillini]

in semi-related news, apparently everybody and his uncle is claiming to be a former Navy SEAL

 

[Scat]

in semi-related news, apparently everybody and his uncle is claiming to be a former Navy SEAL

 

[LogGrad98]

You honestly can't understand why someone would be against a policy that allows torture pretty much anytime, but still be all for Bin Laden getting killed?

Try reading for understanding, then feel free to post again. Here I will post the paragraph for you since you have proven that posts longer than 3 sentences are hard for you to follow:

It is also interesting, even a little disturbing, how up in arms people get about international law in terms of torturing terrorists to get intel to stop future attacks and how absolutely fine people would be in completely ignoring international law to shoot one in the head to stop future attacks. So torture=bad, murder=good in terms of stopping terrorist attacks.

See the international law part? Yes I cannot understand being really mad about breaking international law to interrogate someone but being absolutely fine with breaking international law to murder someone, both for the same purpose, to stop terrorist attacks.

 

[LogGrad98]

Killing Bin Laden is not even remotely close to the same thing (or nearly as bad) as torturing everyone we interrogate.

Much like your poker games being illegal doesn't mean you have no integrity when you speak out against a murderer/rapist/burglar/car thief/drug dealer/etc.

Yeah, torture is to murder as poker night at Gamefaces is to murder/rape/burglary. Sounds like a reasonable comparison to me.


All kidding aside, in your little zinger there you point out something interesting. There are laws that we are willing to overlook.

Apparently you are willing to overlook laws about murder if you are happy with who gets killed, but you won't overlook laws about torture no matter what.

Gameface is willing to overlook laws about poker games in his game room, but would be up in arms about breaking laws regarding torture and murder both.