Bin Laden is dead

[DutchJazzer]

I'm not someone who is going to sit and cry over whether the world's foremost terrorist had his human rights violated. That's who I am. Do you need a band-aid to put on your bleeding heart, you *****?

also might there a possibilty he is just innocent albeit a really small one.

 

[SaltyDawg]

i'm not sitting and crying that OBL is dead. i am almost 100% sure he is guilty.


i'm sitting and crying about the possibility that he might have just been murdered without a trial. i cry about the possibilty that a country just throws out laws ethics and morals out of the window. what if one day a citzen of a 3rd world coutnry decides to do something stupid against america declares war. there is a possibilty that america might just start murdering citizens of that country.

note: i said Possibility cus i ofcourse dont know what happened. now the shooting of obl might be justified(and by justified i mean he wa slunging for a gun or was about to throw a grenade).

If some citizen of a 3rd world county declares war on America, recruits an army to fight America, and uses that army to attack America at every possible opportunity, then hell yeah you better expect America to come after him and his army with everything they have at their disposal. If this is a surprise to you, then welcome to the real world.

 

[One Brow]

You mean the deaths of religious zealots along with 25 children?

If there were children in bin laden's house, do you think the raid should have been called off? Didn't the people in Waco have plenty of opportunitites to send out the children?

Religious zealots who were suspected of possibly bogus weapons charges? Religious zealots who were attacked because of unsubstantiated suspicions of child abuse?

Don't you need a trial to decide if they were bogus? What makes one person less deserving of a trial than another?

Yeah, for some reason that bothers me more than does the killing of a man who has led the terrorist network that has killed thousands of people throughout the world.

Justice by emotion.

1- Fair game, as in "this person has declared his intention to continue to threaten and harm people throughout the world and should be taken out". Yes.

I didn't actually believe you cared about his citizenship status, and figured you tossed it in for no good reason. Thanks for confirming that.

2. Didn't Bosnia deny that he was a citizen?

The denied they made a passport for him, and then later corrected that to denying he picked it up.

If they want to raise issue with the killing of one of their citizens, let them.

So, having no citrizenship was not an issue at all, just a distraction.

And I think it's abhorent to decry the killing of a declared enemy combatant, who was engaged in a hostile situation.

I agree, and no one in this thread has decried that particular situation.

 

[LogGrad98]

They put Hitler on trial? That is news to me.

Where did anyone say that? You know your tendency to twist things to suit your purposes and put words in people's mouths seriously undermine any validity your arguments may have. Your position cannot be very strong if you have to continually fake up inflammatory misrepresentations to strengthen it.

 

[TroutBum]

Where did anyone say that? You know your tendency to twist things to suit your purposes and put words in people's mouths seriously undermine any validity your arguments may have. Your position cannot be very strong if you have to continually fake up inflammatory misrepresentations to strengthen it.

This.

It does make for awesome back and forth though.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Where did anyone say that? You know your tendency to twist things to suit your purposes and put words in people's mouths seriously undermine any validity your arguments may have. Your position cannot be very strong if you have to continually fake up inflammatory misrepresentations to strengthen it.

Of course I know nobody claimed they put Hitler on trial. I was pointing out that they did not put Hitler on trial because he kept saying over and over that they put Nazis on trial.

Well the USA put several terrorists on trial too. So shut up about the Nazis being put on trial. That is what I was trying to find a polite way to say.

 

[YB85]

Justice by emotion.

Actually I call it justice with a bullet.

 

[DutchJazzer]

You guys need to find another flag to wave.

Personally I wish they could re-animate him and then kill him again. Maybe on a weekly basis.

flag waving really?
whats up with flag waving and flag burning its just a piece of cloth

 

[DutchJazzer]

Where did anyone say that? You know your tendency to twist things to suit your purposes and put words in people's mouths seriously undermine any validity your arguments may have. Your position cannot be very strong if you have to continually fake up inflammatory misrepresentations to strengthen it.

exactly i was using Eichman(Adolf Otto Eichmann : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichman) as an example. nice job twisting my words salty. same first name. different guy.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Of course I know nobody claimed they put Hitler on trial. I was pointing out that they did not put Hitler on trial because he kept saying over and over that they put Nazis on trial.

Well the USA put several terrorists on trial too. So shut up about the Nazis being put on trial. That is what I was trying to find a polite way to say.

they put NAzis on trial is hitler the only nazi?
eg eicham
John Demjanju
Rudolf Kastner
to name a few. so if i say nazis where put on trail it automatically means all of them from top to bottom. from hittler to a lowly soldier?

seriously how do you come up with this stuf

 

[DutchJazzer]

Of course I know nobody claimed they put Hitler on trial. I was pointing out that they did not put Hitler on trial because he kept saying over and over that they put Nazis on trial.

Well the USA put several terrorists on trial too. So shut up about the Nazis being put on trial. That is what I was trying to find a polite way to say.

lol thats a polite way of shutting me up? hahahaha

 

[LogGrad98]

Of course I know nobody claimed they put Hitler on trial. I was pointing out that they did not put Hitler on trial because he kept saying over and over that they put Nazis on trial.

Well the USA put several terrorists on trial too. So shut up about the Nazis being put on trial. That is what I was trying to find a polite way to say.

You seriously need to learn to either say what you mean or stop trying to change the meaning after you say it. To me if you literally type:

They put Hitler on trial? That is news to me.

That says you are claiming someone said that. That is neither subtle nor symbolic or ironic or whatever you think it meant. Dutch pointed out a specific Nazi he was referring to that was put on trial, the historic record shows many Nazis being put on trial, and you brought out that it was news that Hitler was put on trial, assuming we would "get" that you didn't really mean Hitler or something? Assuming it would come across as what? Ironic or sarcastic or something? As a direct response to what Dutch said it is taken that way...AS A DIRECT RESPONSE.

If you mean to imply that not every single Nazi that was guilty of war crimes was put on trial as a rebuttal as to why not every terrrorist is put on trial, try just saying that. Your attempts at sacasm or irony or whatever to make your vague point are just failing left and right.

Oh, and besides that, it is an invalid point. Just because some of the Nazis may have escaped trial (by being dead, or escaping or whatever) does not excuse us from giving someone a valid trial as required by the GC. Your basic logic is faulty and your attempts to gussy it up as something pretty are failing miserably.