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Bold Prediction: Alec Burks WILL have a huge breakout year.

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fishonjazz said:
Last year's staying lineup was trey (a mostly outside shooter who was limited offensively due to age), gordon (mostly an outside shooter who is better off not being the focus of the offense), jefferson (mostly an outside shooter who is better off the ball) Marvin (mostly an outside shooter who is better off the ball), and favors (poor offensively)
Seems to me that lineup really needed a guy like Burks and probably would have helped the offense and the rest of the starters as a whole.
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Also, during burks rookie year josh howard shot 39& FROM THE FIELD and 24% from 3.
I don't see how that helped with spacing for big al and the jazz post dominant game. No one was worried about leaving howard open on the perimeter.

That is about as bad as it gets. How the hell did Josh howard start any games for the jazz that year when we had TWO young talented lottery pick wing players who needed minutes? And some people think that playing josh howard over them was the correct move?

Burks had 23 dnp's his rookie year...... meanwhile josh howard started 18 games (he was injured for 21 games that season or he would have had more starts)
Hayward had 17 starts that year
 
Josh Howard played a strong stretch mid-season, and everyone is quick to forget that. Anyone remember all the rumors of a possibly actually discussed Josh Howard for Danny Green trade? The Jazz better have not said no.
 
dalamon said:
I think people forget the days where he would drive away from a screen and pull up for a deep 2 like every freaking possession.
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Please tell me you are exaggerating......... Burks has been an attacker since day one. He may have taken more long 2's in his rookie year than he did last year but even in his rookie year he attacked the rim more than he did anything else.
 
Cy said:
Derozan nearly doubled his 3pt attempts from his 3rd year to his 4th year, when he became an All-Star....

35% is a great number to be at, but he has to actually shoot them for it to have a positive affect on floor spacing and such.
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Good point.
Derozan took 2.5 three point attempts per game per 36 minutes last year. Alec Burks took 2.3

I think burks taking 2.3 attempts at 35% > derozan taking 2.5 attempts at 30%

Would you agree?

Also, I don't think that derozans 2-3 attempts at 30% really did much for floor spacing. Derozan is not a floor spacer imo.
Burks isn't either.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Josh Howard played a strong stretch mid-season, and everyone is quick to forget that. Anyone remember all the rumors of a possibly actually discussed Josh Howard for Danny Green trade? The Jazz better have not said no.
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I do remember a few good games from howard.............. Crazy that he shot 39% from field and 24% from three. Seems like that would leave very little room for a strong stretch at any point but I do remember that stretch too.
He must have been REALLY bad the rest of the time.
 
fishonjazz said:
I do remember a few good games from howard.............. Crazy that he shot 39% from field and 24% from three. Seems like that would leave very little room for a strong stretch at any point but I do remember that stretch too.
He must have been REALLY bad the rest of the time.
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EXACTLY.
 
fishonjazz said:
Also, during burks rookie year josh howard shot 39& FROM THE FIELD and 24% from 3.
I don't see how that helped with spacing for big al and the jazz post dominant game. No one was worried about leaving howard open on the perimeter.

That is about as bad as it gets. How the hell did Josh howard start any games for the jazz that year when we had TWO young talented lottery pick wing players who needed minutes? And some people think that playing josh howard over them was the correct move?

Burks had 23 dnp's his rookie year...... meanwhile josh howard started 18 games (he was injured for 21 games that season or he would have had more starts)
Hayward had 17 starts that year
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Good points all around fish.

It's funny how Dalamon, franklin, Naos, Cy, and other Burks haters, act like mindless drones when it comes to this. They completely ignore all the good points you make and have no rebuttal for you. It's just mindless repeating of Alec Burks sucks.

It's so dumb. So the Alec Burks hater crew thinks that Raja Bell and Josh Howard were better options than Alec Burks. The same guys who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn to save their lives. Those are the guys that in their minds were gonna spread the floor for Al. It's so insane. It's like the hater crew has selective memory. They don't want to remember just how bad Raja and Howard was, just so they can keep making their idiotic argument that Burks shouldn't have been playing.

That last stint of Raja Bell in a Jazz uniform has to be the worst player I have ever seen play in the NBA. Any player from the D League would have been a better option. But yet, that's the guy in their minds that should have been playing.

Thank god intelligence has prevailed, because if the hater crew had it their way, we'd still be watching some of the worst basketball ever.

Cmon you clowns. Stop digging yourself a bigger hole. It's a lot easier to just stop now and admit you were/are wrong.
 
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Hack said:
Good points all around fish.

It's funny how Dalamon, franklin, Naos, Cy, and other Burks haters, act like mindless drones when it comes to this. They completely ignore all the good points you make and have no rebuttal for you. It's just mindless repeating of Alec Burks sucks.

It's so dumb. So the Alec Burks hater crew thinks that Raja Bell and Josh Howard were better options than Alec Burks. The same guys who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn to save their lives. Those are the guys that in their minds were gonna spread the floor for Al. It's so insane. It's like the hater crew has selective memory. They don't want to remember just how bad Raja and Howard was, just so they can keep making their idiotic argument that Burks shouldn't have been playing.

That last stint of Raja Bell in a Jazz uniform has to be the worst player I have ever seen play in the NBA. Any player from the D League would have been a better option. But yet, that's the guy in their minds that should have been playing.

Thank god intelligence has prevailed, because if the hater crew had it their way, we'd still be watching some of the worst basketball ever.

Cmon you clowns. Stop digging yourself a bigger hole. It's a lot easier to just stop now and admit you were/are wrong.
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Yeah, Bell was utterly horrific at the end of his career.
 
Hack said:
Good points all around fish.

It's funny how Dalamon, franklin, Naos, Cy, and other Burks haters, act like mindless drones when it comes to this. They completely ignore all the good points you make and have no rebuttal for you. It's just mindless repeating of Alec Burks sucks.

It's so dumb. So the Alec Burks hater crew thinks that Raja Bell and Josh Howard were better options than Alec Burks. The same guys who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn to save their lives. Those are the guys that in their minds were gonna spread the floor for Al. It's so insane. It's like the hater crew has selective memory. They don't want to remember just how bad Raja and Howard was, just so they can keep making their idiotic argument that Burks shouldn't have been playing.

That last stint of Raja Bell in a Jazz uniform has to be the worst player I have ever seen play in the NBA. Any player from the D League would have been a better option. But yet, that's the guy in their minds that should have been playing.

Thank god intelligence has prevailed, because if the hater crew had it their way, we'd still be watching some of the worst basketball ever.

Cmon you clowns. Stop digging yourself a bigger hole. It's a lot easier to just stop now and admit you were/are wrong.
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Hack and Fish are right about this. Living through the Corbin years was such a miserable experience. I think people are trying to salvage something to convince themselves that it wasn't all just a big waste of time. If Burks breaks out this year it will be yet another indictment of Corbin's coaching. I believe that Burks is about to prove conclusively that we should have been investing much more heavily in his development much earlier in his career. I'm so glad that these players finally have the quality coaching they deserve. What a wonderful thing it is to look at the bench and see that Corbin and Lowe are nowhere in sight.
 
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