Boston Celtics trade
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karl malone
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RE the trade:
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to attempt to center the deal around draft picks. The reason I initially included Burke in the trade was because, while I still think he has potential to eventually start, it is clear that his future role on this team is limited due to the presence of Exum, as well as the fact that his style of play likely isn't an ideal fit in the 2nd unit (on this roster). I also feel that it would be more beneficial for Exum to be mentored by a vet FA PG, & since he is clearly in our long-term plans, his development should be the priority. Replacing Burke with a veteran PG who can better facilitate the offense could be a major addition by subtraction. Booker was included solely for that purpose, as I like Booker & the immeasurable qualities that he brings to this team, such as hustle, leadership, attitude, etc.
That being said, while improving the backup PG position would likely bring more overall improvement to the team than whatever contributions the 4th big (assuming we acquire Olynyk) would make, fighting for a lower playoff seed is likely our best case scenario next year regardless, so retaining Burke for an additional year & hoping for improvements may be the best use of his value. Retaining Booker would also be an obvious plus, the only concern is that there wouldn't be many available minutes for any incoming rookies. With the team wanting to preserve the chemistry that it built over the previous season, losing Booker is likely something the FO would prefer to avoid. Adding a potential core player, who not only fits the developmental timeline of our other key members, but has a complimentary skill set to the other players at his position seems like more value than $10 million could obtain us in FA. Adding 2 more potential core players (Olynyk & #12/#16) for the price of $10 mil in cap space & a future late 1st or moving down 4 spots (+ a 2nd rd pick) in a fairly deep draft, while retaining all of our key players from last year, appears like the type of off-season that would coincide with what the team is trying to accomplish.
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Jazz4ever
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A good example why you want to take need out of the equation. The Jazz desperately needed a PG and it probably clouded their judgement. Today they could simply go out on the open market and get a Burke level PG for 3-4 million.
Maneesh
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Please don't be so mad ok?
Why is Utah giving up so much to help Celtics land Love? Why is Utah giving up the best player in the bunch, Burke, to land a large expiring contract and a second round pick. I like Kelly and think he proved he can play in the NBA, but he is not an All Star. He is Ryan Anderson with more post moves.
da ThRONe
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As a Pelicans fan I'd say Olynyk really isn't even close to Ryan Anderson. I agree with your premise. I don't understand the love affair with Olynyk. I think a combo of Burke and Booker could land you somebody like George Hill if the right situation plays out. Like you said of that bunch Burke is the better player with the higher ceiling.
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karl malone
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How is Burke the best player in the trade? Booker & Olynyk both put up better PER's than he did. Plus this move isn't to acquire a large expiring contract and a second round pick, it's to acquire a young stretch big in Olynyk who brings a skillset that our other bigs are lacking by absorbing a large expiring contract. I don't think Olynyk is an all-star but I do think that he would be the perfect complimentary third big on this team.
People are overrating Burke & even Booker to some extent. Burke has some potential but he has vastly underperformed up to this point & is quickly becoming an inefficient score first PG. Booker does have value, but not nearly as much as some would like to think. His value is based on his non-guaranteed contract as much as it is his talent. Sure, he brings qualities that can't be quantified but he is still a role player. Olynyk is a young big man who has put up a PER of 15+ in both of his first 2 years in the league & still has plenty of room to grow.
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Lakers_Slapper
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Why would we trade Booker?? This is the guy that does everything for a team that never makes it to a stat sheet. His defense is outstanding, and trading him is a huge mistake. He loves playing in Utah and we get a lot out of him for the money we have going out for him.
Do I even have to go into adding Wallace?? Why?? What value does he add??
karl malone
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RE: Trading Booker
I like him as well. He brings hustle, leadership, & attitude to this team. He fits the culture of what we're attempting to build here, but that doesn't make him irreplaceable. Bottom line is he's a role player & no guarantee to return beyond this year. That doesn't mean that we should trade him just to trade him, but if including a 27 year old role player (Booker) in a deal brings back a 23 year old stretch big (Olynyk) who can be a part of the core for the next 5-10 years, then you do it. The only reason I included Booker in this deal was because: A) I thought he might hold some value to Boston & B) I included Burke in the trade so cap space needed to be freed up in order to sign a replacement backup PG.
RE: Wallace
Do I even have to go into why he was added? Burke & Booker combined hold less value than Olynyk does on his own, hence why we take on Wallace's terrible contract.
Burke & Booker for Wallace & Olynyk was just one example. If you go through the thread, you will find others.
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