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PearlWatson said:
In other words, "Why reject the existence of a supreme moral authority only to give it to your fellow humans?
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huh maybe because it is real?

PearlWatson said:
The difference is that you get a possible physical punishment from other humans for breaking the law if you are caught.
Right and wrong goes beyond human law.
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So the first is real, more scary and can get you punished financialy, killed or jailed for life. Second is just tales/illusions/imagination. And even if you believe in it you can go to priest, confess your sins, pray for 5 min and be granted freedom from your "sins". Seems to me like a very easy way out.
There is a reason human law exists and no "supreme moral authority" can replace it. Just accept it.
 
AKMVP said:
huh maybe because it is real?



So the first is real, more scary and can get you punished financialy, killed or jailed for life. Second is just tales/illusions/imagination. And even if you believe in it you can go to priest, confess your sins, pray for 5 min and be granted freedom from your "sins". Seems to me like a very easy way out.
There is a reason human law exists and no "supreme moral authority" can replace it. Just accept it.
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I don't believe I can go to a priest, confess, pray for 5 mins and be granted freedom from my "sins." Furthermore, belief in a supreme moral authority does not exempt me from the laws and punishments that have been established by humans.
 
PearlWatson said:
For a self-described "free thinker" you are extremely attached to people whose only commonality is the denial of God.
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Not really. You won't find me hanging out with anti-vaxxers or Men's Rights Advocates, even though many of them are atheists. You'll find me among the people who accept science/evidence because there is nothing better, promote equality, and seek a better culture. It's not a bad place to hang out.
 
TBS, you forgot to copy the H at the end of the second Allah in your sig. Right now it reads as "Mohammad the prophet of the lol".

Edit: This isn't a trolling attempt. I'm really pointing out a funny copy/paste error.
 
AKMVP said:
huh maybe because it is real?
So the first is real, more scary and can get you punished financialy, killed or jailed for life. Second is just tales/illusions/imagination. And even if you believe in it you can go to priest, confess your sins, pray for 5 min and be granted freedom from your "sins". Seems to me like a very easy way out.
There is a reason human law exists and no "supreme moral authority" can replace it. Just accept it.
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In asking me to explain the difference between morality (right and wrong) and law you actually helped to validate my point that to God-deniers there is no morality outside human law. For them there is no "right" or "wrong" just lawful or unlawful. For you a "decent" person is merely a lawful person.

I'm not Catholic, which is what you describe.

There is a reason behind God's laws as well. Reasons you don't accept but reasons nonetheless.

Of course I accept most human law, but not always the reasoning behind it. For God believers God's laws go beyond human law. There are more behaviors "wrong" than unlawful.
 
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PearlWatson said:
. For you a "decent" person is merely a lawful person.
For God believers God's laws go beyond human law. There are more behaviors "wrong" than unlawful.
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So are you saying that it is impossible to be decent person without being believer in god? As I stated before I have seen so many indecent god believers that I would not even call them human's. Why is that then? Why is USA being one of most religious country in the world is leading in such indecencies as gun related crimes, teenager abortions and STD's?
For example D.Fisher and M.Jackson are god's believers - do you think they are decent?
 
AKMVP said:
So are you saying that it is impossible to be decent person without being believer in god? As I stated before I have seen so many indecent god believers that I would not even call them human's. Why is that then? Why is USA being one of most religious country in the world is leading in such indecencies as gun related crimes, teenager abortions and STD's?
For example D.Fisher and M.Jackson are god's believers - do you think they are decent?
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No, I was talking about what you meant by "decent," because some of the things you bring up are not against U.S. law so to your way of thinking a teenager who had an abortion is still "decent" and a teenager who slept around and got a STD is also still "decent."

As for why the U.S. has a high incidence of those things is because we have allowed God-deniers to control our government schools, teach our kids faux science, and all things that go against the judeo-Christian moral fabric of our society. Basically the increased prevalence of Liberalism goes right along with the increase in "indecency."
 
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