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Break in Susan Powell Case

Scat said:
The BLM anthropologist has deemed that the site of interest is not a site of antiquity. That is, it is newer that 50 years old. That rules out pioneers, native Americans or even WWII internment escapees. Still, a 50 year range leaves a lot of room to not be Susan. The police seem to think that it is much newer than that however.

Secondly, everyone is hung up on what Josh did that night they went camping. Don't forget that the police confiscated his vehicle and he had to rent a vehicle for several days. During that time period he put several hundred unaccounted for miles on the rental. Enough to easily drive back out to the site 1 or 2 more times to clean up the site and erase traces of human, or specifically his, involvement.
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Driving back to the place where you dumped your wife's body in a rental after the police have seized your car to process for evidence would be an unspeakably stupid thing to do. Driving to Ely to try to find her shacked up with a druggie boyfriend would be stupid, too. Driving anywhere while police are swarming over your home and car would be just about the only thing you could do.

Being unwilling to cooperate with the police, who promise to use everything you say against you is not stupid, and it's not a real reason for the police to consider him the prime suspect. There are other, more obvious reasons anybody can surmise from the most casual acquaintance with the situation, which is why most folks think he did it.

If he did it, and the cops still can't find enough proof to make the arrest, he'd have to be smarter than most of us. Which he isn't.

The cops haven't impressed me with being very smart either, but if they have located Susan's remains I'll be changing my impressions pretty quick.
 
They need to get whatever DNA lab processed Osama's DNA to confirm if this is Susan. This crap is taking forever and I want to know if it's her or not.
 
Gameface said:
They need to get whatever DNA lab processed Osama's DNA to confirm if this is Susan. This crap is taking forever and I want to know if it's her or not.
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They have to actually find something with DNA in it, first.

Dumping Osama in the ocean, or claiming to, just forever undermines whatever lab work they claim to have done. Never can be rechecked. Totally destroys all credibility for the whole operation. If cops did that with evidence in a murder, the perp would walk.
 
babe said:
They have to actually find something with DNA in it, first.

Dumping Osama in the ocean, or claiming to, just forever undermines whatever lab work they claim to have done. Never can be rechecked. Totally destroys all credibility for the whole operation. If cops did that with evidence in a murder, the perp would walk.
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Not if the perp were dead at the bottom of the sea.
 
The latest news is that the excavation of the site produced some charred wood which the cadaver dogs indicate is the stuff they were smelling.

This is downright impressive.


There's gonna be some DNA soaked into that unburned wood.
 
I think this case fascinates so many because people are just so excited to see the next blooper.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think this case fascinates so many because people are just so excited to see the next blooper.
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Having worked in biomedical/biochemical research for some years, and with dogs, I realize that if the "charred wood" has enough decaying human material to be detected by the cadaver dogs, the forensic lab should be able to get some human DNA out of it. When I heard the news cast as "disappointing" I thought either the cops didn't really know what they had, or were downplaying it pending lab testing in a rare demonstration of good sense.

That same background is what has made me more skeptical about the significance of the soaked carpet in the doorway of their home. . . . I didn't believe Josh could have done such a great cleanup job the tests would show negative. . . .

The cops are also doing another right thing. They are searching other areas between Ely and Salt Lake along various highways and backroads. I think there must be some body remains buried somewhere else. I surmise that Josh went to Ely in his rental car, maybe just to "get away from it all", after his car was seized for investigation. But maybe his trip was before he claims to have come home and found her missing. I'd believe he could not have transported a body, even in a plastic wrap, without cadaver dogs picking up a residual scent. If the cops found nothing in his car, I'd guess they ought to try to locate another vehicle he had access to. . . . Having a body, or even a residual trace bearing DNA in some wood, is one thing. Proving it was Josh without evidence he transported the body from some scene of the murder is something else. Even if he can't explain his movements during the relevant time, the cops are doing the right thing to not make the arrest until they have something that will stand as evidence linking him to the crime.

The "charred wood" might even have a skin cell from the handling of it when the perp buried it, and a bit of dirt from the sitel might be matched to a bit of dirt in the car. I'm sorta expecting an arrest to be coming.
 
Maybe the search was a bluff to scare Josh, but if he didn't drop her body there then he is just laughing at them.

How would he get rid of the body with his kids present without them noticing and saying something to police?

If he went camping with his kids then he dumped the body before leaving with his kids.

The family drama is "bizarre":

The case has caused a major feud between the Cox and Powell families - with the latter claiming Mrs Powell ran off with another man, reported MSNBC.

Steve Powell, Mr Powell’s father, sensationally claimed last month he had a flirtatious relationship with his daughter-in-law and they were in love.

But this was denied by her parents and Cox family lawyer Anne Bremner, who claimed the Powells had gone from ‘bizarre to just unbearable’.

Mrs Powell’s family won a court restraining order last month, which means Josh Powell and Chuck Cox must not come within 500ft of each other.

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hallow-grave-desert-search.html#ixzz1YQEdS87C
 
Millsapa said:
Maybe the search was a bluff to scare Josh, but if he didn't drop her body there then he is just laughing at them.

How would he get rid of the body with his kids present without them noticing and saying something to police?

If he went camping with his kids then he dumped the body before leaving with his kids.

The family drama is "bizarre":

The case has caused a major feud between the Cox and Powell families - with the latter claiming Mrs Powell ran off with another man, reported MSNBC.

Steve Powell, Mr Powell’s father, sensationally claimed last month he had a flirtatious relationship with his daughter-in-law and they were in love.

But this was denied by her parents and Cox family lawyer Anne Bremner, who claimed the Powells had gone from ‘bizarre to just unbearable’.

Mrs Powell’s family won a court restraining order last month, which means Josh Powell and Chuck Cox must not come within 500ft of each other.

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hallow-grave-desert-search.html#ixzz1YQEdS87C
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kids don't make very good witnesses, particularly to bizarre goings-on. But it changes quite rapidly with age, too. I don't know how old the kids are, but I don't think the kids could have been "along for the ride" while killing, burning, or disposing of their mom. I know of one convicted murderer who didn't kill the six-year old kid and got ratted out. The cops questioned the perp but didn't think they could make the case, so the perp walked, and did another murder and made it a point to murder the kids as well. So then the cops decided to believe the kid, and so did the jury.

If the kids can credibly confirm they were with dad during the relevant timeframe from the last independent confirmation of Susan being alive, it's a strong case the cops should be considering other possibilities. If there was any large block of time when the kids weren't with Josh, that is by far the most likely time he could have done it.
 
Breaking news: Steven Powell was just arrested by police in Washington. No word yet on why he was arrested.

*Edit* Now an update was released saying the arrest had nothing to do with Susan, but did stem from the recent search of the home.
 
https://www.deseretnews.com/article...f-voyeurism-possession-of-nude-photos-of.html


Police are reporting that Steven Powell, the father-in-law of missing West Valley City woman Susan Cox Powell has been arrested.

According to the Pierce County Prosecutor's Office, the arrest was connected to the discovery of "thousands of images of females being videotaped without their knowledge" in the man's home — including some images of Susan Cox Powell.

The 61-year-old has been charged with 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possession of depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct and was taken into custody Thursday, Pierce County Prosecutor's Office said in a news release. Some of the images and videos featured individuals as young as 8-years-old in addition to adults.
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Gee, I wonder what else this guy is hiding?

I can see how he's really concerned with finding the mother of his grand-kids...

Meanwhile, this dude is filming little kids?

What a great way to make Santa's nice list...
 
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