Break in Susan Powell Case
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If they find her there will it change you opinion regarding Scott's innocence?
lol... your BS will probably end up being right. Then we can all call you a prophetic (city counsel) leader....
Probably. It won't change the fact that just because they have a body that he is guilty, but damn, it sure makes it nearly impossible to defend him.
Stifle Tower
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T'was a miner, 49'er, and his daughter, Clementine.
Archie Moses
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I like how the investigators said that it's a 50/50 chance the remains are Susan Powell's because, you know, the bones could only belong to Susan or 1 other person and not anyone else.
It's Friday morning and the latest newstory online is still saying no actual remains, even clothing, have been physically secured, just maybe ten dogs all trained to point at human cadaver smells still insisting on further digging. At least the job is being done carefully and systematically which is best for minimizing doubt about the meaning of whatever is there.
The site is located off the main roads a few miles, but in the rockhound area on the south end of the Topaz rhyolite flow where the best topaz digs are located. A bad place to dump a body if you don't want it to be found someday. This exact spot was on my list of future rockhounding expeditions.
Newstory says Josh's family is asking for more release of any information. Yesterday the radio news was stating that the actual remains of Susan Powell had been located. Good idea to question reporters' accuracy or even the police statements when they're going that wild with it. They are also now denying specifically that they went there because of anything they found in Ely or Washington searches recently, insisting instead that this general area has long been on their list of places to check out. Susan's friends are now saying that this is the exact spot Josh and Susan camped when they got lost looking for the geode beds. That's really stupid. The Geode beds are clearly marked by signs and generally available literature of many kinds as on an entirely different road more than ten miles north and running east-west past the other end of the Topaz range. Nobody is going to make that mistake. That just makes the just-now revealed recollections of the friends look made up.
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A bad spot to leave a body?
Huh? Am I missing something?
I've heard that the remains might be from pioneers or Susan Powell. If it's some old miner or pioneer, how can you say it's a horrible place to dump a body? It took us 100+ years to find it.
If it's Susan Powell, again, great place to dump it. she's been "missing" for how many years now? And it took a team of cadaver dogs to find it. How many other rock hunters have been up to this place and passed through without detecting those remains? So I just don't see how one could determine that spot a bad place to dump/hide a body.
And even if it's determined that she was murdered, how does that somehow incriminate her ex-husband?
Also, one should remember, that cold night that they went "camping" was a horrifically freezing cold night. I doubt Josh could have buried the body with the soil being frozen solid. Dumping the body somewhere would probably be his best option.
When using terms generically "bad" or "good" it is almost always a comparative. I was comparing a spot along a rut leading to an area specifically designated for rockhounding. True, there aren't ten people in that area inside any week, and maybe not that many on that road in the "busiest" rockhounding month of the year. And reportedly, the exact spot although clearly disturbed would likely have escaped observation unless someone walked within ten feet of it, and only the dogs found it even with a dozen officers combing the area carefully.
there are, nevertheless, a lot of spots that wouldn't have gotten that much attention, say along the old riverbed chanel fifteen miles closer to Simpson Springs, or thirty yards off the road almost anywhere the whole way from Simpson Springs. For example, in the channel of the old riverbed that carried water for a while when Lake Bonneville was drying up. There's some clumps of sage and some twists and turns in the channel, with a lot of sand that could be more easily "restored" to a natural-looking surface and any signs more easily erased by wind, rain, or snow.
The area of the find was hardly an area used by pioneers, cowboys, or even Goshute indians, but has received a great deal of attention by geologists, BLM officers, rockhounds, and sightseers. That's why there's a rut to that area.
A lot of storms pass over this area without dropping a lot of moisture, and the ground probably wasn't actually frozen even at near zero, and all the reasons for not wanting to be seen might have been in play.
I just think it's better to keep in mind that some things are not "established facts" until the evidence is actually in and thoroughly reviewed by some competent trained officers. I don't have any personal stake in this, except in the value the case may have as either a deterrence to more crime or as a public education process. Unfortunately, I have little respect for the judicial process or for juries drawn from contemporatry society. I've been on one where I saw a serious miscarriage of the due process and a judge who refused to do what was right. And then there's some disturbing trends going down in our frontline officers as well. Not to mention a lot of us.
there are, nevertheless, a lot of spots that wouldn't have gotten that much attention, say along the old riverbed chanel fifteen miles closer to Simpson Springs, or thirty yards off the road almost anywhere the whole way from Simpson Springs. For example, in the channel of the old riverbed that carried water for a while when Lake Bonneville was drying up. There's some clumps of sage and some twists and turns in the channel, with a lot of sand that could be more easily "restored" to a natural-looking surface and any signs more easily erased by wind, rain, or snow.
The area of the find was hardly an area used by pioneers, cowboys, or even Goshute indians, but has received a great deal of attention by geologists, BLM officers, rockhounds, and sightseers. That's why there's a rut to that area.
A lot of storms pass over this area without dropping a lot of moisture, and the ground probably wasn't actually frozen even at near zero, and all the reasons for not wanting to be seen might have been in play.
I just think it's better to keep in mind that some things are not "established facts" until the evidence is actually in and thoroughly reviewed by some competent trained officers. I don't have any personal stake in this, except in the value the case may have as either a deterrence to more crime or as a public education process. Unfortunately, I have little respect for the judicial process or for juries drawn from contemporatry society. I've been on one where I saw a serious miscarriage of the due process and a judge who refused to do what was right. And then there's some disturbing trends going down in our frontline officers as well. Not to mention a lot of us.
The BLM anthropologist has deemed that the site of interest is not a site of antiquity. That is, it is newer that 50 years old. That rules out pioneers, native Americans or even WWII internment escapees. Still, a 50 year range leaves a lot of room to not be Susan. The police seem to think that it is much newer than that however.
Secondly, everyone is hung up on what Josh did that night they went camping. Don't forget that the police confiscated his vehicle and he had to rent a vehicle for several days. During that time period he put several hundred unaccounted for miles on the rental. Enough to easily drive back out to the site 1 or 2 more times to clean up the site and erase traces of human, or specifically his, involvement.
Secondly, everyone is hung up on what Josh did that night they went camping. Don't forget that the police confiscated his vehicle and he had to rent a vehicle for several days. During that time period he put several hundred unaccounted for miles on the rental. Enough to easily drive back out to the site 1 or 2 more times to clean up the site and erase traces of human, or specifically his, involvement.