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Breaking Bad (thread will have *spoilers*)

First, I was actually a bit conflicted about the Breaking Bad ending. On the one hand it was nice that it wrapped things up, on the other hand it felt wrong to me somehow that Walter basically got everything he wanted, minus Hank dying and his family not loving him. Ultimately the writers seemed to be still in love with his character to the end, even though Gilligan specifically said that the point of the show was to change WW from protagonist to antagonist. I think it would have been braver and more interesting if they made WW fail in his final endeavors, and maybe even try to make us feel good about the fact that the guy ultimately lost everything and was never able to complete his revenge scheme. He was, after all, a real *******.

Still, this way of ending it was fun too.

As for greatest TV dramas ever... I have yet to see Sopranos or The Wire. I just haven't gotten to them is all.

Boardwalk Empire I watched a season of. Mostly I was bored. I wanted to like it, and it did have its moments, but as Kicky said, it really is quite slow.

My personal favorites would probably go like this:

1) Breaking Bad
2) Six Feet Under
3) Deadwood
4) Rome
5) West Wing
6) Battlestar Galactica
 
Agree that west wing is on the list. I also really enjoyed Lost even though I'm not sure it's a globally accepted top franchise.

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Jason said:
Agree that west wing is on the list. I also really enjoyed Lost even though I'm not sure it's a globally accepted top franchise.

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Lost first 3 seasons yes.... post time travel BS, not so much
 
Maybe I will avoid boardwalk empire after all. Currently my family has a few shows in rotation anyway. Walking Dead, Falling Skies, Being Human, Once Upon a Time.
 
DutchJazzer said:
i seriously cant fathom why people compare it with dexter.
other than tod and dextrer suffering from the same "sickness" there are no similiarites.
wire and sopranos on the other hand are comparable
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You would have a point if I were saying that Dexter was as good as BB and I was disappointed with Dexter's series finale but loved BB's. Since I didn't say that first part, you get no points and can go over and sit in the corner. I said that both just recently had final episodes and I thought BB's was amazing and Dexter's sucked. No more or less.
 
I have been thinking about Felina and it feels anti-climactic. Not sure what I may have been expecting, and they did close things up in a grand way, with the M60 apparatus and all, but it just kind of faded out and somehow I wanted more, I don't know, yelling maybe? Maybe an explosion or something? I did like the way Walt used Badger and the other kid as the "hit-men". That was a good move. But overall it just left me feeling kind of empty. Maybe it is sadness that the ride is over.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I have been thinking about Felina and it feels anti-climactic. Not sure what I may have been expecting, and they did close things up in a grand way, with the M60 apparatus and all, but it just kind of faded out and somehow I wanted more, I don't know, yelling maybe? Maybe an explosion or something? I did like the way Walt used Badger and the other kid as the "hit-men". That was a good move. But overall it just left me feeling kind of empty. Maybe it is sadness that the ride is over.
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I agree. I thought that the episode should've been longer, and the more I think about it, the more I think it should've been two hours. The episode was way too fast. In order to touch on all the points, everything had to execute with absolute perfection and nearly zero explanation. It paced the episode as such as well, where at a certain point, I kind of knew how the episode was going to play out. I think the episode being nearly twice as long would've made it a lot better for more reasons than just me wanting more time with the show.
 
I think part of the reason it feels a little empty is because Ozymandias was the real emotional climax of the show. The penultimate episode is what Walt deserved. The final episode, in some sense, is the quasi-redemption many secretly wanted.

Can't wait for Better Call Saul.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I agree. I thought that the episode should've been longer, and the more I think about it, the more I think it should've been two hours. The episode was way too fast. In order to touch on all the points, everything had to execute with absolute perfection and nearly zero explanation. It paced the episode as such as well, where at a certain point, I kind of knew how the episode was going to play out. I think the episode being nearly twice as long would've made it a lot better for more reasons than just me wanting more time with the show.
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I agree. Breaking Bad was always best when it had room to breathe. It had the most interesting silences of any show on television. The writing, directing, and acting was so inspired that the show excelled in slow sections that lesser shows try to avoid altogether. All I have to do is think back to the third episode of season one, with Walter bringing Krazy-8 sandwiches and bumming around Jesse's house trying to work up the nerve. That episode was not at all fast-paced, but it was never boring. And that's obviously just one example among many.

But besides being too short, I maintain that this last episode also just ended too cleanly. You can have closure in a piece of fiction without necessarily wrapping up every character and plot point in a neat little bow, as if the final episode is nothing more than a checklist of things that need to be addressed before the end credits roll. As you said, it became predictable. But the show has always been messy, and you rarely knew what was going to happen next. I think we were all waiting for that last surprise --whether good or bad for Walter -- that never came.
 
Sirkickyass said:
I think part of the reason it feels a little empty is because Ozymandias was the real emotional climax of the show. The penultimate episode is what Walt deserved. The final episode, in some sense, is the quasi-redemption many secretly wanted.

Can't wait for Better Call Saul.
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I feel like you've summed up here basically what I said in my original comment about the final episode, but in about one-third the length. I do tend to be overly verbose. Perhaps that's because you're a lawyer and I'm an academic.

Anyway, yes, totally agree. In some ways I wish the show had ended with Walt getting arrested right after calling his son, right at his lowest moment. Instead they went for the redemption that I had hoped the showrunners might be brave enough not to give him.
 
AtheistPreacher said:
I feel like you've summed up here basically what I said in my original comment about the final episode, but in about one-third the length. I do tend to be overly verbose. Perhaps that's because you're a lawyer and I'm an academic.

Anyway, yes, totally agree. In some ways I wish the show had ended with Walt getting arrested right after calling his son, right at his lowest moment. Instead they went for the redemption that I had hoped the showrunners might be brave enough not to give him.
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I'm glad they went with the redemption. I feel like Bradley Cooper in Silver Lining's Playbook where he tosses the book and yells about how there are never any happy endings. I feel like The Sixth Sense changed Hollywood into this big twist/tragic ending business and I miss just a good old fashioned happy ending.

BB ended perfectly. Except for poor Flynn. That kid got screwed.
 
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