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*BREAKING* Manafort Found Guilty on Eight Counts as Cohen Pleads Guilty to Eight Counts

Zombie said:
Admittedly I have not. I'm not trying to claim that investigators don't use some incredibly ****** tactics to extract confessions from suspects. I'm just not sure that has much to do with Trumps lawyer admitting he improperly bought multiple women's silence during an election. It's not like this hasn't been widely corroborated with media reports over the past year.
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1)You should watch it. It is cray cray.

2) Slow your roll. You won't find a blind follower of Earth's most important moron in me. Preaching to the choir
 
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♪alt13 said:
1)You should watch it. It is cray cray.

2) Slow your roll. You won't find a blind follower of Earth's most important moron in me. Preaching to the choir
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No I got you, I know you are not, like, defending these clowns. I just thought your comment was odd.
 
So did Donald have a hot Russian babe pee on him or not? Isn't that what the investigation is all about?
Some Execs get golden parachutes; Some get golden *******.
 
Jack Strop said:
So did Donald have a hot Russian babe pee on him or not? Isn't that what the investigation is all about?
Some Execs get golden parachutes; Some get golden *******.
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The way I understand the story is that Trump rented a hotel room Obama had stayed in and had a couple hookers pee on the bed Obama had slept in.

If we look at the way Trump has been pissing on Obama's policies I can certainly believe it.
 
I love how Hannity is whining about Mueller going fishing. “How did this go from Russian collusion to Manafort’s tax fraud and Cohen’s paying off porn stars?”

As if Ken Starr originally started investigating Clinton and Lewinksy...
 
DutchJazzer said:
also at the risk of getting banned for another ism again probably racism

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784
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sirkickyass said:
Do you actually believe paying fines assessed to an entity is the same thing as individuals pleading guilty to crimes?
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actually on principle yes!

but you might have different principles/morals.

paying a fine is a punishment. if you accept the punishment depending on your morals you accept your guilt.
 
DutchJazzer said:
actually on principle yes!

but you might have different principles/morals.

paying a fine is a punishment. if you accept the punishment depending on your morals you accept your guilt.
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if you come to me as a government. and tell me i jaywalked and should pay a fine. i would tell you hmm really? when please show me the evidence. if they just say you jaywalked on august 1st. now pay the 1 dollar fine. i would tell them to go screw themselves.

if they provide evidence or if i rmemeber jaywalking on that date i would say hmm ok you are right and pay the fine.
 
I just want one of the "nothingburger" crowd to acknowledge there's a lot of ****ing meat, some bacon and extra toppings on this nothingburger.
 
the stock market has spoken.

as usual it dips on the news, then people take the time to analyze and see its a nothing bruger and it bounces back up

Manafort Verdicts

  1. Filing False Tax Returns For 2010 Tax Year. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

  2. Filing False Tax Returns For 2011 Tax Year. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

  3. Filing False Tax Returns For 2012 Tax Year. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

  4. Filing False Tax Returns For 2013 Tax Year. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

  5. Filing False Tax Returns For 2014 Tax Year. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

  6. Failure To File Reports Of Foreign Bank And Financial Accounts. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

  7. Bank Fraud (Citizens Bank, $3.4 Million Loan). - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

  8. Bank Fraud (Banc of California, $1 Million Loan). - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.
Cohen Pleas

Count 1 of evasion of assessment of income tax liability. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

Count 2 of evasion of assessment of income tax liability. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

Count 3 of evasion of assessment of income tax liability. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

Count 4 of evasion of assessment of income tax liability. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

Count 5 of evasion of assessment of income tax liability. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

False statements to a bank.- No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

Causing an unlawful corporate contribution. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.

Excessive campaign contribution. - No Charges, Fines, or Jail Time for President Trump.


sooooo where is the russian collusion?!
 
none of manaforts "crimes" are related to trump.

and only 2 of "cohens" are somewhat related to trump and obama was paid a fine for the same "crime". so trump will pay the fine and will be the end of it. all other things are unrelated to trump


hahahaha NOTHING burger MOVE along folks.

now they will go after next victims, will find nothing. get them for tax evation and bank fraud maybe perjury. rinse repeat rinse repeat.
where is the collusion folks? all the liberals dancing in the streets over this nothing burger!
 
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Bulletproof said:
The way I understand the story is that Trump rented a hotel room Obama had stayed in and had a couple hookers pee on the bed Obama had slept in.

If we look at the way Trump has been pissing on Obama's policies I can certainly believe it.
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A lot of what he's done or attempting to do is all bark, little nip (suprise suprise). For example, I laughed at his "state's rights" plan for coal fired power plants. I don't have the final details but my guess is it changes absolutely nothing here in Utah. I cant get into details much but I don't see how much change is feasible under current law and legal structure. The proposal is actually pretty status quo from what I've read (states submit a plan to EPA, EPA approved or denied or more likely sits with their thumbs up their asses for years like they tend to do now) Articles have pointed this out, but in a dumbed down way where I can tell the writers didnt really understand what they were reporting.

The CAFE standards freeze was moronic and pointless, but again, I doubt it will drastically change much. 1) manufacturers don't give a rat's *** about CAFE as long as they can meet the ones their lobbyists keep getting set. 2) They know power will swing back the other way, so best prepare. 3) Fuel efficiency is a selling point that's not going away soon.

Detroit already learned their lesson about making inefficient and ****** vehicles. Are we supposed to think they will stop improving now because Trump allows it?
 
Dutch seems to be trying to take the "nothingburger" off the grill. Silly effort. Robert Mueller is the cook, and he likes his burgers well done. And done well. And if anybody relieves Mueller as the grill master, there will be hell to pay at the ballot box this November. More then there will likely be already.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/22/it-...trump-gop-after-cohen-manfort-bombshells.html

"The reckoning has arrived for President Donald Trump. The trouble for him and fellow Republicans — legal and political — will only get worse from here......

.....Trump and his allies sought comfort by asserting that none of Tuesday's legal proceedings involved collusion with Russia to influence the 2016 election. That is true.

But all the president's men under prosecutorial scrutiny have important Russian connections that are problematic for Trump. Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller has only shown a fraction of the evidence he has amassed."
 
Zombie said:
Really cool that the new narrative on the right is that only crimes having to do with Russian collusion matter.
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Well that and it doesn't really matter what crimes Trump is directly and indirectly involved in because Hillary... emails, Benghazi, Vince Foster.
 
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