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Al-O-Meter said:
Guns are objects. They don't have morals. They aren't right or wrong. They simply exist.
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You forgot that they are perfect. Listening to co workers talk about their guns and show pictures and spend hella money on their guns makes me disagree with you. These folks definitely see them as right. And a something to love for their awesomeness. They more than simply exist. I hear some co workers talk more about their guns than their kids. They show pictures of their guns more than they do of their kids. They spend more money on their guns than their kids.
 
fishonjazz said:
I have done a lot of hunting. never saw anyone use an AR-15 to shoot a rabbit, deer, duck, grouse, chucker, pheasant, antelope, etc etc etc. Seems like the crazies love to shoot up a bunch of folks with the AR-15 though. I know I know there is virtually no difference between the AR-15 and your average hunting rifle. There is one big difference between the two though. Perception. If they were perceived the same way then we would see lots of hunters using AR-15's and lots of mass human killers using a 30-06 rifle to do their mass killings.
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I have hunted small game with both my 5.56 AR and .300 blackout with suppressor using subsonic ammo (no ear protection needed).

There are over 20 million AR15s in circulation in the U.S. Many are target or competitive shooters or enthusiasts. Most realize a semi-auto rifle won't really protect them if **** hit the fan.

If ARs are banned a high capacity shotgun with buckshot would likely be as or more lethal.

The 2nd Amendment says nothing about hunting.
 
fishonjazz said:
You forgot that they are perfect. Listening to co workers talk about their guns and show pictures and spend hella money on their guns makes me disagree with you. These folks definitely see them as right. And a something to love for their awesomeness. They more than simply exist. I hear some co workers talk more about their guns than their kids. They show pictures of their guns more than they do of their kids. They spend more money on their guns than their kids.
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Sounds like you work with idjits. I have never worked with anyone like that. I own a large number of guns but have never taken pictures of them. The people I shoot with are largely the same. I mostly shoot for fun, hunting very rarely these days.

Like anything, the silent majority of gun owners are likely reasonable.
 
Let me get this straight: we don’t trust teachers to choose the right books, don’t trust them that they’ll say the right thing in class and want to record them, don’t trust them when they said that little Johnny isn’t turning in homework or saying the N word in class, don’t trust them to do the job they’re trained and educated for yet now you want to trust them to handle a firearm to protect your kids?
 
Avery said:
Let me get this straight: we don’t trust teachers to choose the right books, don’t trust them that they’ll say the right thing in class and want to record them, don’t trust them when they said that little Johnny isn’t turning in homework or saying the N word in class, don’t trust them to do the job they’re trained and educated for yet now you want to trust them to handle a firearm to protect your kids?
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With the way some of my short-tempered teachers were treated by certain students, and how those teachers responded, the last thing I'd want is any teacher having a gun. I don't trust cops with guns either. Everyone is human.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Well maybe if gun laws were more restrictive and better enforced when he got mad he could just go make some tiktoks or get some ice cream. If it was harder to get a gun maybe he calms down. I'm going to blame the laws directly related to the crime and not try to change the whole world in this instance.
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Driver's License. Military or public service conscription. Some people need self-protection as bad as any can need a driver's license.

Laws that regulate cars and guns should define offenses in terms of harm to others done with such. Shouldn't matter if gun, knife, or truck is used to kill anyone. Equal harm, equal offense, equal crime. Planning and Intent are valid lines of judgment, reckless disregard and such.

No more media blitzes triggering copycat crimes. Just let the police and courts deal with it all.

I "liked" your response above because I believe peoiple have rights to think. The public right to restrict a personal right like self-defense needs a compelling reason, which you do not have here.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
With the way some of my short-tempered teachers were treated by certain students, and how those teachers responded, the last thing I'd want is any teacher having a gun. I don't trust cops with guns either. Everyone is human.
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I wouldn't object to screening teachers with proclivities for temper excursions any more that I'd object to such screenings for cops.
 
Avery said:
Let me get this straight: we don’t trust teachers to choose the right books, don’t trust them that they’ll say the right thing in class and want to record them, don’t trust them when they said that little Johnny isn’t turning in homework or saying the N word in class, don’t trust them to do the job they’re trained and educated for yet now you want to trust them to handle a firearm to protect your kids?
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I actually feel like the ability to impart knowledge to immature humans and the ability to project pieces of metal into another human being are completely separate skills.
 
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