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NUMBERICA said:
Harden had to sign an extension which means he had control over where he went and I am pretty damn certain he didn't want to come here.
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Harden was a restricted FA. So, he could risk 80 million or sign an extension. Odds are, he had no say in where he ended up. Think about this:

If we had Harden, do we make the WCF this year? Probably.

PG: some vet
SG: Harden
SF: Hayward
PF: Favors
C: Gobert

That starting lineup is insane. Let's compare to GS:

Steph = Harden
Hayward = Thompson. Maybe Thompson is better, but not by much.
Vet PG = Barnes. Wash. Two solid role players
Bogut = Gobert.
Favors = Green. Some would argue Green is better. I'd argue that Favors would be better than Green if Favors was playing with Harden.

We'd still have Burks (though not this year) and maybe Hood. If we had traded for Harden, we might be winning a title right now.

And you know what? If Harden decided he hated Utah, signed the extension then tried to force his way out, I'd be ok with that, because I'm sure Harden would have a much better return than Kanter had.

Not trading Kanter for Harden was easily the biggest mistake in Utah history. Easily.
 
Ellis269 said:
I'm also pretty certain that he would have signed Utah's 5 year max as easily as he signed Houston's. Getting him (and his Bird Rights) before RFA would have been a boon.

I would have put the best offer on the table and then dealt with the contract issues later. Just like any rookie, he would have taken the best offer for the Jazz as easily as any other team. Only pending unrestricted free agents have that kind of leverage. It's a business. Somwtimes teams need to make business decisions and sort out the feelings later.
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You would've traded for Harden without him signing an extension...?
 
green said:
Not trading Kanter for Harden was easily the biggest mistake in Utah history. Easily.
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What the **** are you talking about? Did some substantiated info about this leak or are you just screaming out of your *** like you usually are?
 
NUMBERICA said:
You would've traded for Harden without him signing an extension...?
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If I had to. I doubt he plays hard ball and refuses to sign the 5 year max on the table. And let's say he does. . . then before he goes the RFA route, I again put the 5 year max on the table. If he's stupid about it and decided to take a RFA offer sheet from somewhere else. . . I match that.

In that circumstance, I firmly believe he would have signed a max for Utah at some point before hitting RFA. And if he hadn't, I'd have just matched whatever offer he did get and retained his Bird rights. If you can get the rights to a potential star before RFA, you absolutely do it.

As a one year rental before UFA? Probably not so much. It hasn't worked out too well for the Lakers (Howard) or Cavs (Love), but I can see why both teams chased them. Had they not had major issues with star player personalities and team chemistry, I think both would have stayed. Kevin Love still might.
 
Ellis269 said:
If I had to. I doubt he plays hard ball and refuses to sign the 5 year max on the table. And let's say he does. . . then before he goes the RFA route, I again put the 5 year max on the table. If he's stupid about it and decided to take a RFA offer sheet from somewhere else. . . I match that.

In that circumstance, I firmly believe he would have signed a max for Utah at some point before hitting RFA. And if he hadn't, I'd have just matched whatever offer he did get and retained his Bird rights. If you can get the rights to a potential star before RFA, you absolutely do it.

As a one year rental before UFA? Probably not so much. It hasn't worked out too well for the Lakers (Howard) or Cavs (Love), but I can see why both teams chased them. Had they not had major issues with star player personalities and team chemistry, I think both would have stayed. Kevin Love still might.
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There is no indication that Love is leaving. I would bet good money he resigns with Cavs.
 
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