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What do you tell the kid that fears defending himself from bullies because he's afraid he'll be suspended?

If you're his parents, you tell him not to be. You tell him that a suspension like that is trivial and meaningless. He should own it like a badge of courage. You fully support him defending himself (or others) from bullying, and that you are proud of him. You tell him: Disregard rules, acquire wrecked bullies.
 
So all these bullying stories make me ask the question, where do kids get their desire to bully/dominate/hit people from? Are kids just inherently evil? Is it something they learn from their environment? I know it's not particularly a cultural thing as there are bullies in Japan. When we were living over there, there were several cases where elementary school kids would get picked on so bad that they committed suicide. What drives kids to want to hurt other kids that bad?
 
What I find funny in the video is when the taller kid in the black shorts steps up to Casey as if he thinks it was wrong that he body slammed that kid. I wonder what he said to him then. "Pick on someone your own size?" Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be bullies.
 
So all these bullying stories make me ask the question, where do kids get their desire to bully/dominate/hit people from? Are kids just inherently evil? Is it something they learn from their environment? I know it's not particularly a cultural thing as there are bullies in Japan. When we were living over there, there were several cases where elementary school kids would get picked on so bad that they committed suicide. What drives kids to want to hurt other kids that bad?

I know there are studies out there about this. I also know this is way more common than it should be (the suicide issue). Just do a search of teen suicide and bully or bullying. Here is just one such case:

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3882520&page=1

The parents of a 13-year-old girl who believe their daughter's October 2006 suicide was the result of a cruel cyber hoax are pushing for measures to protect other children online.

Tina and Ron Meier, who are now separated and plan to divorce, have taken up the cause of Internet safety after a bizarre twist in their daughter Megan Meier's death.

The mother of a former friend of Megan's allegedly created a fictitious profile in order to gain Megan's trust and learn what Megan was saying about her daughter. But the communication eventually turned hostile.
 
I highly doubt suspending him is a big issue for the kid if the bully is also suspended. If you have a no fighting policy you can't allow body slams regardless of the situation. The problem is the bully not getting suspended and he does. If it's my fat kid I'm okay with what he did but if it's my school I'm not okay with it.

what should the bodyslammer need to do he got slaped hit several times. the evidence is right there nobody helping nobody holding that little turd back. what other options are there. where ois the line what if after he hit him a few times he started raping him could he then fight back. whenever somone punches me i give them a fair warning tell them that one is free and ask them to please not do it again sometimes i even give them a second punch for free hitting at the third punch. but these kinda people dont understand 1 guy once hit me 7 times i warned him a couple of times. he had a bit too much to drink should i (casey) not fight back?

WHY GET PUNISHED FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING.

**** the stupid no fight policy. this is no fight this is SELF DEFENSE.

is there a "NO self defense" Policy? if so he should get suspended. but he did not fight he defended himself.

on the ohter hand i got suspended from school a couple of times. i did not see it as punishment i saw it as a vacation.
 
It was cool to see how ROYALLY ****ED UP the little bitch kid got. He was not doing well after that suplex.

I read somewhere a couple of hours ago that he brook his foot ankle and his nose. cant find the news article. so i canot provide link. will search for it again
 
So you are going to enforce the no fighting policy (punish the people who fight back) but let the bullies do their thing? I am fine if you want to enforce the no fighting with a heavy hand but you better be heavier handed with the ones who start it. In this case the little prick got what he deserved.

Problem is this clearly doesn't fall under the no fighting policy. seeing as the kid did not fight he defended himself
 
the humiliation of this video may cause them to go after the kid with renewed intensity. They may want revenge, they may want to save face -- it's that thing that fighters are taught about how violence, by its nature, doesn't want to end. I hope and suspect that he's done taking their ****, and has steeled his heart in preparation to do it again and again if he has to.


you clearly know nothing about bullies. bullies prey on the weak this kid just proved he aint weak trust me this litle kid aint a fighter he is a coward. and he will never ever approach the Hero again. the bullies/cowards will just find another weak target to save face
 
So all these bullying stories make me ask the question, where do kids get their desire to bully/dominate/hit people from? Are kids just inherently evil? Is it something they learn from their environment? I know it's not particularly a cultural thing as there are bullies in Japan. When we were living over there, there were several cases where elementary school kids would get picked on so bad that they committed suicide. What drives kids to want to hurt other kids that bad?
https://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html
I stumbled upon (literally) that little diddy the other day, blew my mind.
 
It worked well in my son's case. It was explained to him that he was being suspended for one day to stress the point that the school does not condone fighting or fighting back, but that it would have no other repercussions than missing a day of school. They even excused his school work for that day so he didn't have to make anything up.

Suspensions are punishments. If the school administration really felt that no punishment was deserved for defending oneself (as noted by no make up work), then why punish the kid?

And "fighting back" is not tolerated. I guess the school would rather kids be punching bags than kids.
 
I have told my boys that if I ever get a call that they fought back against a bully, no punishment would happen. If I ever get the call that they are the bully, all hell will break loose.

I fully plan on this as well. If I ever find out my kids are bullies, they will not like me very much.

My daughter is kind of going through this right now. She's only 6 and has already had to tell one of the neighborhood kids "You know I don't like you because you're mean, right?" This little girl isn't violent mean, but she says mean things. One day she was with a group of other kids at school and they all said something about liking my daughter, and the little bitch said "Except we really don't, do we?" All the other kids said "Yes, I do". That's just one instance.
 
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