fallenchicken
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babe, you sound like a day release. Crazier than a **** house rat. But it's sort of endearing. Keep doing you, man.
Bundys Go Free
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I do have questions. Such as why is a federal agent, on foot, that far from a roadblock (hundreds and hundreds of feet) in the forest in thigh high snow? Seems like a very suspicious place to be.
But the fact still remains that he ran a road block and then jumped out of his truck and stumbled through the snow. The video I saw was hardly conclusive of if he was shot before or after the first time his hands went to his waist area. He was stumbling through thigh deep snow.
Also, the case was dismissed with prejudice.
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Man that one dude was murdered. Plan and simple. At most they should have tranquilized him or used some other non lethal means.
LOL
Archie Moses
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I'm on the fence about how I should feel about this. Half of me feels they got let off the hook and the situation was idiotic. The other half of me feels bad, sorry for them and their situation. It's been a while since I've read up on them, but the stories I read were absolutely bizarre and disgusting bullying from the government. Especially the son and dad case in Oregon.
The tarp guy who got shot dead was extremely sad to me. He was a great guy and in my opinion, was completely baited and his death was avoidable not only from him, but by the feds.
This is a short video of the person witness account of what happened. There is a longer, way more in depth one on youtube that goes over the POV of the LaVoy and the other passengers in the car the day he was wacked. It's crazy to me.
Archie Moses
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He was, dude. Read up on it. Baited.
Legit question
Is this your stance on all of the other police related deaths? Such as Mike Brown, Walter Scott or Eric Garnier?
Situation was idiotic. Especially the whole Oregon Refugee thing. But I have read some of the court released proof about the FBI plans that were with held. If that is legit info they went nuts and way, way, way overboard. Like snipers around the Bundy home and calling for MRAPs (military grade, anti IED proof vehicles) to be used.
I think all parties involved made some extremely poor choices and it led to all of this we have now. Including LaVoy Finnicum's death.
You're on the fence about an armed man, who was a leader of a terrorist organization illegally occupying a federal building, and who claimed in an interview when asked if he would rather be arrested or killed in a standoff that "I have no intention of spending any of my days in a concrete box."? A guy who reached for a gun in his pocket, after a high speed chase with police, and came out daring them to shoot him and then reached for his gun?
What fence is there to sit on here?
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Who fired first? Who didn't come out firing? Who didn't kill or hurt anyone? If I were that mercenary I'd like the rest of my life in guilt.
I'm laughing at the suggestion that the police tranquilize him.
The police kill people that don't need to be killed frequently. I watched the video one time, it seemed like a difficult call. Context matters, like being an armed militia taking over a gov't building in a wilderness area, running a roadblock, attempting to dart off into the woods... Could the police have NOT shot him? Yeah, probably. But was there a legit concern he was armed, had a death wish and possibly wanted to take some cops with him? Yes. He could have prevented his own death by making a different decision over a half-dozen times leading up to his shooting.
I love constantly being told to "read up on it" on these ****ing issues. One, I have limited interest or concern in his death. Two, I'm not going to spend my days reading up on things on conspiracy peddling websites and fact checking every frivolous claim they make. I've got way better things to do with my spare time.
Archie Moses
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Yep. I know it sounds really sketchy when you put it like that, but in context of what was going on, what they were fighting for and how he was baited, I feel completely fine being on the fence about it.