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Burglar Shot Dead

unluckyseventeen said:
I understand them, too, and that's their choice. But it's utter irony how I'm having to defend my stance of "shouldn't you consider every circumstance?".. if you killed some drunk kid because you're too ignorant to consider the circumstances, boy, you'd really feel like a dumbass. All of my solutions have been centered around "protect yourself and handle the situation with as little bloodshed as possible" and yet apparently that solution isn't the correct one. And jagoffs like you feel the need to perpetuate it with ridiculous responses.
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I don't think I'd feel like a dumb ***.
 
Archie Moses said:
That's the whole point of me posting pictures of airsoft gun wounds, that you keep bring up. Rubber bullets and air soft bb's are not real bullets that are designed to kill. How you don't get this is over my head.
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Throwing teddy bears at a burglar isn't designed to kill them either. It must be the same thing as beating the **** out of them, breaking their legs, and letting them live, right? Neither kills, so it must be the same exact thing.
 
TheDude said:
Hey, I did apologize that you are a moron in my 1st sentence... cut me some slack.

Still, it doesn't matter how many posts I have on Jazzfanz to point out your argument is ridiculous. Rubber bullets? Seriously?

Guess I need to make a 1000 posts before I earn my e-respect from UL17. Board spamming... here I come!
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No, you haven't shown you're capable of dismissing an argument without providing any sort of reasoning, so nobody will care about what you have to say. You're proving this to me every time to post.
 
Drunk people can't cause harm to me or my family, right ul17? Drunk people never harmed anyone when stumbling in someone's home. Terrible argument.
 
One Brow said:
The Dude,

Thanks for the reasonable response.

My question: even though you fired a close range, something happened and you missed, and the bullets hits someone across the street. Is the homeowner criminally responsible for that? Or, does teh existence of the home invader give him a free pass on where his bullets might go?
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To be quite honest, from a legal standpoint, I really don't know. I think that Clutch is probably right with his response.

From a moral standpoint, that would be terrible. I don't know how I could live with myself after... All I can really say is that it is the responsibility of the gun owner to ensure that they are properly trained to use the weapon to minimize the chance of that happening.

From my standpoint, you have to protect your family to the fullest extent, with deadly force if necessary. Just make sure you are properly prepared and EQUIPPED to do so. (no rubber bullets)
 
C l u t c H 385 said:
I don't think I'd feel like a dumb ***.
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You'd kill some kid that was doing something stupid, but harmless, and not feel bad for it? Especially after having a perfectly good opportunity to consider the situation and still make the same choice? If I had a big red warning that said "think before you act" and presented a very specific circumstance, and then made the wrong choice afterward, I'd feel pretty ****ing stupid.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
No, you haven't shown you're capable of dismissing an argument without providing any sort of reasoning, so nobody will care about what you have to say. You're proving this to me every time to post.
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Funny you say that since you have not even tried to refute what I say about a criminal getting back up and shooting you after you hit him with a rubber bullet. And you don't have an argument... it's dead in the water.
 
I can understand where UL17 is coming from but what I don't think he understand is that if the intruder meant you and your family harm the rubber bullets are not going to cut it. Neither will pepper spray or a taser. So what are you to do? Keep two separate clips next to the gun and try and decide on the fly whether you should use real or rubber bullets? Do you have a home invasion prevention vest next to your bed that holds a variety of self protection methods that you hurry and put on so that you are ready for everything from drunks to pranksters to a thief to a drug crazed murderer??

The best solution for protecting yourself and your family is a loaded gun with real bullets with every intent to use it if you feel it necessary. I'll let you decide whether or not it is necessary. Anything else wastes valuable seconds that could mean the difference between life or death.
 
TheDude said:
Funny you say that since you have not even tried to refute what I say about a criminal getting back up and shooting you after you hit him with a rubber bullet. And you don't have an argument... it's dead in the water.
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No, I just didn't pay attention to it, and didn't address it. It's still not worth addressing because of the way you entered the thread.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
God, talking to you is like talking to a middle school kid. You don't get it, and never will. Accept it, and stop wondering why you have a reputation around here for being a moran the next time your feel-bads get hurt.
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I've presented a good argument, while you continually resort to childish name calling, to me and to others, because we don't agree with using rubber bullets. I'm the middle school moran though.


P.S.

My internet reputation effects my feel goods.
 
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