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Buying into the second round?

Avery said:
I think we are kidding ourselves that buying a second round pick is going to somehow improve our team. Last second round pick we hit on was Millsap 16 years ago.
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Your definition of “hit” for a 2nd rounder is a mile beyond reasonable if a multi-time all-star and easily one of the greatest draft selections in Jazz history is your criteria.

A pick like Neto or Evans is a fine find in the 2nd. That being said: Don’t ask me why Lindsey worked so hard to amass so many 2nd rounders only to sell a chunk of them off or absolutely suck at drafting with any of them.

I believe I’m on the record advocating for Shake Milton in 2018 (they sold the pick to the team that eliminated them from the playoffs) and Van Vleet in 2016 (when the Jazz had like three 2nd rounders and whiffed on all of them). For whatever that is worth.
 
Where in the second round? Late second rounders have just as much chance of hitting as the UDFAs. Early to mid second rounders are complete different stories but teams won't be giving those away easily like what DL did the last two years.
 
I'm not against getting second rounders as getting any contribution from one is helpful, I just don't think grabbing one is going to do much for this team right now. Would also state that the gap between being a second rounder and UDFA isn't much, all in the eye of the beholder.

We either need win-now players or you flush it with some lottery draft talent and try this again in 3-4 years.
 
jom2003 said:
Where in the second round? Late second rounders have just as much chance of hitting as the UDFAs. Early to mid second rounders are complete different stories but teams won't be giving those away easily like what DL did the last two years.
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Yeah but when you’re talking UDFA’s you’re back to competing with other teams for players. Having a 2nd - even the 60th pick - bypasses that complication altogether.
 
Odds are that the next Bane or Booker or Paul George or Chris Paul or Giannis will be available and we will opt for the next Azibuke, D'uhron, Hayward, Trey Lyles, or Trey Frigging Burke.

But, yeah, perhaps we can buy in to the party this year time so we spend an asset to get our guy.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Odds are that the next Bane or Booker or Paul George or Chris Paul or Giannis will be available and we will opt for the next Azibuke, D'uhron, Hayward, Trey Lyles, or Trey Frigging Burke.

But, yeah, perhaps we can buy in to the party this year time so we spend an asset to get our guy.
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To be fair, Hayward has had a pretty decent career and doesn’t belong in the same sentence as those other dudes. Our folly was simply not trading him for any real assets.
 
Gameface said:
I wish the Jazz could buy their way into the second round, unfortunately the playoffs just don't work like that.
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They work exactly that way. The league makes sure the teams that make more money get into the 2nd round. Heck they changed their entire officiating strategy this year to make it easier to do just that.
 
Avery said:
To be fair, Hayward has had a pretty decent career and doesn’t belong in the same sentence as those other dudes. Our folly was simply not trading him for any real assets.
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So, Hayward or Paul George? Its clearly not the same asTrey Lyles vs Booker, thats clear. But "why do we always seem to end up with the fuzzy side of the lollipop"? (Marilyn Monroe quote for those who didn't catch it)
 
some good names mentioned so far, but assuming he stays in the draft, give me Kris Murray. same height, length, athleticism and skillset as his brother without the role to show what he can do - this is how you get a first round talent in the second round.
 
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