BYU @ Utah........

[Jazz Spazz]

Jazzspazz I find it hilarious how you try to marginze the missed horsecollar call. Tack on 15 yards on to that play and Utah is in FG range, maybe more. Even if they settle for 3 at that point it makes Utah's 4th qtr lead 4 instead of 1. And on the fumble call that hurt Byu you act like the call itself gave Utah 7 points. It was Byu that let them into the endzone.

I agree that it was bad calls both ways and that Utah played like hell but I don't look at it as a gift. In the last 15 minutes Utah made huge plays when they had to, Byu did not.

Using your logic, why didn't the Utes make a play after the missed horsecollar tackle..... why blame the bad call on them not getting into the endzone?
Yes, the BYU defense should have stopped the Utes again after the bad fumble call and it would not have mattered.
But that's not how it went down. If the ref's called the "fumble" down, would the Utes have won? Probably not, even with the 1st down call reversed, and with a horsecollar tackle called.

This is why I say the Utes played well, but should also accept it as a gift.
I accept that BYU was given the SDSU game this year, I am not so blind as to say... so what, we played well, and earned it all... we rock... ref's didnt help us.

 

[CONAN]

Salty are you claiming that the player is not down in the pic you posted?

 

[SaltyDawg]

So now who is "spouting fabrications"?
The knee was down, then the ball was ripped.
Thanks Broncster.

The same desperate BYU homers are still spouting the same fabrications, yourself included.

Show me the frame in that video that shows the knee down before the ball starts coming out. You can't, because it doesn't exist.

The best shot I've seen so far is the one I posted. And that shot shows the ball was already all the way out before the butt even touched the ground, and before the knee was all the way down.

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[Jazz Spazz]

I don't see where the knee is when the ball comes out in your link. If you claim is in there, then post that shot.

I posted a clear shot showing the ball was out (not coming out, not being stripped, but already gone) while his butt was still in the air and the knee wasn't even all the way down yet.

Your link was not conclusive. It showed his knee, but didn't show where the ball started coming out.

Nice try though, homer.

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You are being the Homer. That picture is in the video, but obviously after his knee has hit, and has supported his weight.... then the Ute player starts pulling the ball out.
Grow up.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Salty are you claiming that the player is not down in the pic you posted?

I'm claiming that the ball is already out when the knee touched the ground, as evidenced by the pic I posted.


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[SaltyDawg]

You are being the Homer. That picture is in the video, but obviously after his knee has hit, and has supported his weight.... then the Ute player starts pulling the ball out.
Grow up.

Prove it. Show me. Show me a pic of his knee on the ground before the ball started coming out.

You can't, because it doesn't exist.

Yet, you continue this fabrication that the Utes didn't earn a victory and it was a gift from the refs...


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[Jazz Spazz]

Prove it. Show me. Show me a pic of his knee on the ground before the ball started coming out.

You can't, because it doesn't exist.

Yet, you continue this fabrication that the Utes didn't earn a victory and it was a gift from the refs...


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I really don't care.
The game is over.
Think what you want.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I really don't care.
The game is over.
Think what you want.

Then don't come into a game thread saying Ute fans should consider it a gift from the refs, lol.

If you come into a game thread saying something like that, you have to expect someone to disagree (assuming there is visual evidence, like the picture I posted).

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[Jazz Spazz]

Then don't come into a game thread saying Ute fans should consider it a gift from the refs, lol.

If you come into a game thread saying something like that, you have to expect someone to disagree (assuming there is visual evidence, like the picture I posted).

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You were given video evidence you are refusing to see or believe.
I cannot convince someone who refuses, so there is not point.
I thought you might have some sort of reason, which is why I even bothered.
I was wrong... so carry on.
Let's agree to disagree.

By the way, if the same exact thing happenned to the Utes, you would be all up in arms.
Funny how that works.
Later

 

[gregbroncs]

You were given video evidence you are refusing to see or believe.
I cannot convince someone who refuses, so there is not point.
I thought you might have some sort of reason, which is why I even bothered.
I was wrong... so carry on.
Let's agree to disagree.

By the way, if the same exact thing happenned to the Utes, you would be all up in arms.
Funny how that works.
Later

This same video evidence did not convince an impartial official enough that they would overturn the play. It was a close call that was called a fumble. If he had been ruled down then that would have stood as well. I have seen no conclusive video showing he was down with the ball. The video is not conclusive therefore the ruling on the field stood.

 

[colton]

By the way, if the same exact thing happenned to the Utes, you would be all up in arms.
Funny how that works.
Later

Awesome--an unintentional haiku!

Happened to the Utes?
You would be all up in arms
Funny how that works

 

[SaltyDawg]

You were given video evidence you are refusing to see or believe.
I cannot convince someone who refuses, so there is not point.
I thought you might have some sort of reason, which is why I even bothered.
I was wrong... so carry on.
Let's agree to disagree.

By the way, if the same exact thing happenned to the Utes, you would be all up in arms.
Funny how that works.
Later

I was not given video evidence. I was given a video that never showed where the knee was when the ball came out.

I posted a picture showing where the ball was when the knee went down (butt still in the air, knee not even all the way down yet).

Again, if you are so sure the Utes won because of a gift from the refs, I'd like to see the evidence.

I think the picture proves it's at least possible that it might have been a fumble. If you don't see it then you're just another in a long line of desperate BYU homers fabricating their own version of reality.

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