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Can the Emmanuel Mudiay and Jeff Green experiments please end.

2- The idea of Exum is that he can fit better because he’s a good defender and a better passer.
Disagree.
Based on what really? You can't certainly blame Mudiay for effort or boneheaded mistakes on defensive switches which Exum still can't figure out. Mudiay DBPM is +1.9, Exum is -1.4. Plus Mudiay ast% is better than Exum's ( last season) so I do not buy that Exum is better passer either. Of course it is only 11 games Mudiay played with us so far so we need more data to compare.
 
1- contract situation... Exum is on 2/20 basically... hard to move if you bench him... and we have needs.
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I would be ok with that scenario - give him minutes, get his stats a bit up so we can finally find some sucker trade partner for his " potential"
 
Disagree.
Based on what really? You can't certainly blame Mudiay for effort or boneheaded mistakes on defensive switches which Exum still can't figure out. Mudiay DBPM is +1.9, Exum is -1.4. Plus Mudiay ast% is better than Exum's ( last season) so I do not buy that Exum is better passer either. Of course it is only 11 games Mudiay played with us so far so we need more data to compare.

Based on historical performance I am confident Dante is a better defender. He may not be a better passer but he's a more willing passer. That bench unit needs more ball movers.

I've just always thought guys that are ball stoppers limit your ceiling unless they are great creators. Mudiay can create a little for others and he's been creating league average shots... which is good for a bench player... last couple games though we've seen some of the things that he has struggled with... namely finishing at the rim and outside shooting.

I mean it is primarily contract related... but I just don't think we bench Dante because of sunk costs and his contract situation.
 
Based on historical performance I am confident Dante is a better defender. .
He may be a better one on one defender but team defense concept is like rocket science to him - thus quick hooks by Snyder numerous times after he screws up. Mudiay at least seems to understand team defense better.
 
He may be a better one on one defender but team defense concept is like rocket science to him - thus quick hooks by Snyder numerous times after he screws up. Mudiay at least seems to understand team defense better.
This is why I hate talking about Dante... He's so damned flawed even when he's healthy. DL gonna be in an asylum someday rocking back and forth thinking about him.
 
He may be a better one on one defender but team defense concept is like rocket science to him - thus quick hooks by Snyder numerous times after he screws up. Mudiay at least seems to understand team defense better.

See mate, it's posts like these that get you into hot water, and therefore make any discussion about Dante Exum with you a total slog, if you're going to just completely ignore facts due to your utter hatred of Ex.

Mudiay has a defensive rating average of 111.9 over his six year career ,not including his time with us, and the eye test also backs this statistic up. I've watched him a lot, and I know who he is as a player.

Dante has a defensive rating average of 100.1 over the four years that he has actually played games in, not including this year. The eye test also backs this up.

I haven't included this years statistics because it's still too early, and still a smaller sample size, and also that Ex will probably not look good for maybe another month, maybe more. How would Mudiay look if he was out almost 9 months?

It's completely clear that Dante is a better defender. This year Mudiay has actually applied himself defensively, and I'm proud of him for that. It's too early though and it remains to bee seen yet whether that continues, because let me tell ya, he was horrendous the other day.

MVP, get some perspective. You can still dislike a player, and praise a positive part to his game. I didn't like Rubio here, didn't seem to be a good fit, but I could see his positive impact in some areas.
 
Mudiay has a defensive rating average of 111.9 over his six year career ,not including his time with us, and the eye test also backs this statistic up. I've watched him a lot, and I know who he is as a player.

Dante has a defensive rating average of 100.1 over the four years that he has actually played games in, not including this year. The eye test also backs this up.
I only compared last years Exums stats to this years Mudiay's stats. As you said Mudiay seems to be making a good progress on defensive end and Snyder himself said how please he is with Mudiay's effort on defense. Maybe he sucked at the beginning of his career ( where do you get 6 years BTW - this is his 5th year in NBA so far and he is a year younger than Exum) but he is improving now.
Exum on the other hand is what he is, he can stay well in front of his defender and bother him with his length but otherwise he is not that good as proven by his DBPM.
 
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Mudiay has already surpassed Exum at every facet of the game. So can the believing in Bustum experience please end. Dude sucks and still looks like a talentless rookie. He doesnt even have enough talent to be a role player in the league. Hopefully we unload him at the deadline cause Emmanuel already stole his job
 
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Mudiay has already surpassed Exum at every facet of the game. So can the believing in Bustum experience please end. Dude sucks and still looks like a talentless rookie. He doesnt even have enough talent to be a role player in the league. Hopefully we unload him at the deadline cause Emmanuel already stole his job

Exum is a better passer and defender.
 
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