Can We Please Just Waive NWG?

[infection]

Here’s the thing about Shaq: he plays on a ****** *** team. Name a single defender who gets credit on a ****** *** team. Guys like Dort get reputations because they end up being seen on big stages in the playoffs guarding guys. Shaq’s teams suck. Nobody watches them. Their games aren’t close. There are no pressure moments for those teams where they need to throw Shaq out there and thus display his talent. He’s on our playoff squad and I guarantee you he gets noticed.

Here’s a list of guys you’d like Shaq to play 15+ minutes of defense on, especially in a playoff series, who we have no answer for:

Chris Paul
Devin Booker
Lou Williams
Harden
Curry
Lillard
McCollum
Kyrie
Lowry
Kemba

 

[idiot]

Serious question that I hope will get a serious answer (not just Jazz -centric):

Why is Shaq still out there? Presumably 29 teams could use him. Do you think he's asking for money that teams are unwilling to give? Do you think he's looking for a situation that will promise him minutes (presumably on a bad team)? Is he just waiting for the first team to offer him a minimum salary? What do you think is going on?

Or conversely, what are teams not seeing? Are they not buying his jumper? Do they think he'll be an offensive liability? It's all just so strange, given what he did last year (admittedly in limited minutes)?

 

[infection]

Serious question that I hope will get a serious answer (not just Jazz -centric):

Why is Shaq still out there? Presumably 29 teams could use him. Do you think he's asking for money that teams are unwilling to give? Do you think he's looking for a situation that will promise him minutes (presumably on a bad team)? Is he just waiting for the first team to offer him a minimum salary? What do you think is going on?

Or conversely, what are teams not seeing? Are they not buying his jumper? Do they think he'll be an offensive liability? It's all just so strange, given what he did last year (admittedly in limited minutes)?

I think a big part of the reason is that teams like us have a drastic need for someone like him. So we elevate his value far above what another franchise would, because other franchises usually have at least 1-2 guys on their 15 man squad that can play passable perimeter D, so him not being as well rounded probably makes him less of a hot commodity. Teams that aren’t super competitive would probably look toward more upside options on the backend of their roster. Then the other competitive teams in big markets have a much easier time snagging cheap players. So unless a team like us or Portland are interested in a guy like him, then perhaps his market is depressed.

 

[idiot]

I think a big part of the reason is that teams like us have a drastic need for someone like him. So we elevate his value far above what another franchise would, because other franchises usually have at least 1-2 guys on their 15 man squad that can play passable perimeter D, so him not being as well rounded probably makes him less of a hot commodity. Teams that aren’t super competitive would probably look toward more upside options on the backend of their roster. Then the other competitive teams in big markets have a much easier time snagging cheap players. So unless a team like us or Portland are interested in a guy like him, then perhaps his market is depressed.

Was just (like 2 minutes ago) looking at an article suggesting the Lakers should get him if he's willing to go for a minimum contract. Seemed to suggest that he was the best choice out there to fill one of their two remaining spots. Makes me wonder if it's a money holdup (he's not willing to go for the minimum at this point).

 

[infection]

Was just (like 2 minutes ago) looking at an article suggesting the Lakers should get him if he's willing to go for a minimum contract. Seemed to suggest that he was the best choice out there to fill one of their two remaining spots. Makes me wonder if it's a money holdup (he's not willing to go for the minimum at this point).

It’s possible, but if I were in his shoes I’d be concerned about getting let go from Chicago and I’d be looking to 1) secure income next year in whatever way possible and 2) getting in any kind of reps/exposure as possible.

He’s probably in the Udoh category. He’s not as offensively inept as Udoh, but Udoh is a guy who is phenomenal and I think could really help a handful of teams, but he’s not getting looks.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Is Shaq Harrison 6-4 or 6-7? I have seen both an equal amount with no explanation as to why.

 

[infection]

Is Shaq Harrison 6-4 or 6-7? I have seen both an equal amount with no explanation as to why.

A year or two ago the league changed how they measure people where they do it barefoot now, so some measurements are all over the place. So he’s probably the old 6’7” and the new 6’4”.

 

[infection]

Royce used to be 6’7”, I believe, or at least 6’6”, but now is 6’4”.

 

[idiot]

A year or two ago the league changed how they measure people where they do it barefoot now, so some measurements are all over the place. So he’s probably the old 6’7” and the new 6’4”.

I think the divergence actually preceded last year's barefoot measurements. I don't know how the 6-7 started though. He doesn't look 6-7 to me.

 

[idiot]

It’s possible, but if I were in his shoes I’d be concerned about getting let go from Chicago and I’d be looking to 1) secure income next year in whatever way possible and 2) getting in any kind of reps/exposure as possible.

He’s probably in the Udoh category. He’s not as offensively inept as Udoh, but Udoh is a guy who is phenomenal and I think could really help a handful of teams, but he’s not getting looks.

I agree with you on this point that (if he's holding out for more money) that he's playing a dangerous game at this point. But on the other hand, as they said about Jeff Green, once you become known as a minimum contract guy, it's very hard to break out of that around the league. So he may be figuring that this is his best chance to be seen as something more.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Serious question that I hope will get a serious answer (not just Jazz -centric):

Why is Shaq still out there? Presumably 29 teams could use him. Do you think he's asking for money that teams are unwilling to give? Do you think he's looking for a situation that will promise him minutes (presumably on a bad team)? Is he just waiting for the first team to offer him a minimum salary? What do you think is going on?

Or conversely, what are teams not seeing? Are they not buying his jumper? Do they think he'll be an offensive liability? It's all just so strange, given what he did last year (admittedly in limited minutes)?

IDK but Christian Wood was waived like 5 times so NBA teams miss a lot.

 

[jom2003]

Why is Shaq still out there? Presumably 29 teams could use him.

Not really. Teams always prioritize size/athleticism on the wing in modern day NBA. We are sorta the elephant in the room when it comes to not building your team around switch D. What Shaq brings seem valuable to us but actually would be considered redundant to other teams. After all, he is a 10min bench guy coming off of one of the worst teams in the league and a career 29% 3pt shooter. He is also foul prone, averaging well over 4 fouls per 36min, making it difficult for him to stay on the floor. He'd be a valuable 10-15min guy for a team that desperately needs hustle/energy on the perimeter like us, but that's not much the case for most other teams. GRIII is a better piece and deservedly so