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Cavs offer Gordo MAX deal (maybe)

NUMBERICA said:
Any person that has ever worked with a lesser employee making more money than them will immediately realize what a huge mistake giving Hayward a max contract would be.
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Exactly. I bet there isn't one player out there that believes that Hayward is worth max money.

I'll say this. If Hayward gets a max, we better be prepared to pay Burks and Kanter $14 + a piece.




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NUMBERICA said:
Any person that has ever worked with a lesser employee making more money than them will immediately realize what a huge mistake giving Hayward a max contract would be.
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I'd like to believe most of our players aren't 13 emotionally and mentally. I'm probably wrong, but I'd like to believe that.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Hornacek was one of the best shooters in the entire NBA, consistently, for his career. He also handled the ball and had an exceptional mid-range game. Hayward has neither of those things. He's more like Luol Deng with less D. That's exciting. The Bulls sure seemed to miss him.

It's hard to ascertain what the value of glue guys are, which is exactly why you don't give one a max contract.
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Yep. I've asked reporters an people on twitter to name one elite skill Hayward had. It goes silent for the most part. One guy responded with "well...he's elite at being good at a lot of different things". Well great. Max him.


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JimLes said:
I'd like to believe most of our players aren't 13 emotionally and mentally. I'm probably wrong, but I'd like to believe that.
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Eh? It's immature for people in the workforce to be bothered when an inferior talent gets paid more than them?


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Lattimer said:
Yep. I've asked reporters an people on twitter to name one elite skill Hayward had. It goes silent for the most part. One guy responded with "well...he's elite at being good at a lot of different things". Well great. Max him.


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He is the guy you want to place around your max players. I hope he stays on the team but not at 16 mil. I'd go 12 mil tops and that's pushing it.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
A low cost option could be moving Burks to the starting lineup and signing Kent Bazemore. Increasing minutes for Exum, Hood and Trey could also help absorb the loss of Hayward.
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Doing something like this is what a lot of people are advocating, but I still don't know what we do with the $25 - 30 million in cap space we would have left. It has to get spent somewhere. I don't think Parsons or Stephenson are realistic options. Parsons is staying in Houston. He didn't recruit Howard to change teams. The only reason Houston declined his option was so they could have more cap space to sign another player, then bring back Parson. Stephenson is fun to watch, but I wouldn't want him to be on my team once he's making great money.
 
Lattimer said:
Exactly. I bet there isn't one player out there that believes that Hayward is worth max money.

I'll say this. If Hayward gets a max, we better be prepared to pay Burks and Kanter $14 + a piece.




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Serious question: Do people really think that Kanter, and to a lesser extent, Burks, are as valuable as Hayward?

Burks is a decent 6th man, and Kanter is a headcase who is not figuring it out up to this point. Hayward has his flaws, but those two guys are clearly not as good as him or Favors.
 
Stoked said:
He is the guy you want to place around your max players. I hope he stays on the team but not at 16 mil. I'd go 12 mil tops and that's pushing it.
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I'd do 12. What's killing everyone is the thought of a max.


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AlaskanAssassin said:
Doing something like this is what a lot of people are advocating, but I still don't know what we do with the $25 - 30 million in cap space we would have left. It has to get spent somewhere. I don't think Parsons or Stephenson are realistic options. Parsons is staying in Houston. He didn't recruit Howard to change teams. The only reason Houston declined his option was so they could have more cap space to sign another player, then bring back Parson. Stephenson is fun to watch, but I wouldn't want him to be on my team once he's making great money.
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If Houston gets Melo Parsons may have to go.

Also if that is what the Jazz do it singnals to me that its about player development and growth and not wins, aka tank 2.0. In that case you pull a deal like last year and get some future assets.
 
b_line said:
but they did go out of their way to acquire them. Of course, that couldn't matter either.
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Why would it? They went out of their way to acquire what were universally known to be wholly negative assets to acquire positive ones and cost them 0 actual money and 0 committed years (beyond the one they were playing).

This is a closer case of two things actually being "in no way similar" to each other.
 
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