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Cavs offer Gordo MAX deal (maybe)

Serious question: Do people really think that Kanter, and to a lesser extent, Burks, are as valuable as Hayward?

Burks is a decent 6th man, and Kanter is a headcase who is not figuring it out up to this point. Hayward has his flaws, but those two guys are clearly not as good as him or Favors.

Well, Hayward has no elite skills, shot 41% FG, 31% 3-pt, had a 16 PER, and is below average defensively (according for Pelton and Lowe) and he is apparently worth a max. So Burks who is elite at getting to the line, decent 3 pt shooter, 36% I believe, and is an average defender will expect a max from the jazz. Kanter is big and young so he will see Hayward and expect a max.

My point is Hayward isn't a standout talent and if gets a max they'll think they will get that or close. Max contracts all around boys.


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Is the extra $3 million a year really going to haunt the Jazz long-term?

It's more like 4 a year plus the extra 2 in Burks deal as Kanters deal it will cost them so more like 8. So yeah it will. It means this is our team for four years. Apart from adding diante Garrett's this is it.


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Is the extra $3 million a year really going to haunt the Jazz long-term?

It depends on what they want to do long term. So yes it could. Not smart business to make a bad deal because it's only 1 bad deal. You try to make the best deal all the time.
 
If Houston gets Melo Parsons may have to go.

Parsons made $925,000 last year. The Rockets 100% would not decline his option (as a very underpaid player) without his commitment to re-sign after they chase Carmelo in free agency. You can go over the cap to re-sign your own players, and Houston still has his rights.
 
Parsons made $925,000 last year. The Rockets 100% would not decline his option (as a very underpaid player) without his commitment to re-sign after they chase Carmelo in free agency. You can go over the cap to re-sign your own players, and Houston still has his rights.

That would be tampering.
 
It's more like 4 a year plus the extra 2 in Burks deal as Kanters deal it will cost them so more like 8. So yeah it will. It means this is our team for four years. Apart from adding diante Garrett's this is it.

Just because one player signs for a couple million over their "worth" doesn't mean every player on the team can/will do the same thing. Another team has to be willing to offer it to them. I can't think of ONE instance that a team "set a precedent" by overpaying someone and then being strong-armed into overpaying other players on the team. You're just making this BS up as you go along.
 
When you might be paying three or four other guys that much more because of it? And $3 million in cap can be used in a lot of different ways.

How are we suddenly overpaying other players because of this? What 3 or 4 other guys are you talking about. I swear, one person pulls a BS point out of their &@@ and suddenly everyone buys into it.
 
That would be tampering.

Not necessarily. "Chandler, we're declining your option because we want to improve the team in free agency. We really want you here and plan to make a very strong offer to you once we have other pieces in place. We hope you decide to stay with us."
 
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