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Chris Johnson is a Keeper

I never said CJ was a good as Matthews; I said they are similar type players.

Fair enough.

As for his shot, I still dispute you because you're going by stats. I've been to a few Jazz games in person and CJ has a good stroke. He's 84 percent career from the foul line and I believe he could shoot 40 percent from three.

Maybe he could. If he ever does he'll be in demand.
 
He can't shoot or dribble, but does play good defense. It's not enough in the NBA though. He's 26, would have showed something the last couple years if he was rotation material.
 
I think he sucks.

he's a 15th-man kind of guy. No doubt. But you just want a good locker room guy with hustle and heart. You can do worse than CJ. I'm not going to cry if he gets cut, but I'll root for him if he is able to stick.
 
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He can't shoot or dribble, but does play good defense. It's not enough in the NBA though. He's 26, would have showed something the last couple years if he was rotation material.

Only 26? Good players can play into there 40's. I think CJ has a good decade left in him look at what Diaw an JJ can do at there age. CJ has the talent to make any NBA team better.
 
I like CJ better too, but Withey has more value.

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I like CJs hustle but that will only get him so far.
Given Favors and Goberts injuries last season and wear and tear over the season- Id prefer we kept Withey keeps the wear and tear on Favs and Rudy down plus if either are injured we have a decent shot blocker to step up.
 
he's a 15th-man kind of guy. No doubt. But you just want a good locker room guy with hustle and heart. You can do worse than CJ. I'm not going to cry if he gets cut, but I'll root for him if he is able to stick.

I saw too many poor decisions and blown plays. Even against subpar competition. He is not on DMC's level. He always played smart, especially on D. CJ plays hard, not smart. He drove me crazy lasy year. I really hope he is cut. Withey is a much better 15 guy. Decent bigs are hard to find.
 
The good thing about the decision to keep CJ or not in relation to DMC'S improvement, is that Quin has experience with both. He knows better than anyone if CJ can make a similar jump or not.
 
I saw too many poor decisions and blown plays. Even against subpar competition. He is not on DMC's level. He always played smart, especially on D. CJ plays hard, not smart. He drove me crazy lasy year. I really hope he is cut. Withey is a much better 15 guy. Decent bigs are hard to find.

not going to argue against this. I get it.
 
I think a big factor in the decision is how fast Bolomboy develops. He seems to be progressing nicely when you consider how he played in summer league against lesser competition. Is he as good a defender as Withey right now, no, not even close. But I think he is as good a rebounder and he is a tremendous athlete. If the Jazz feel he'll be able to step up during the season, they may let Withey go.
 
I think a big factor in the decision is how fast Bolomboy develops. He seems to be progressing nicely when you consider how he played in summer league against lesser competition. Is he as good a defender as Withey right now, no, not even close. But I think he is as good a rebounder and he is a tremendous athlete. If the Jazz feel he'll be able to step up during the season, they may let Withey go.

If it was for spot minutes when we are healthy I'd have no problem just rolling Bolomboy out... witheys value is that if we have an injury he can step in and play 20 minutes a night and contribute.

I can't believe we are even discussing who should get cut. If we cut withey he'd get picked up in a second... when we cut CJ I don't think he makes a roster and is either in Europe or the d league. Denver just cut two guys I think I'd rather have than CJ.
 
CJ hustles, but he's not particularly good. Reminds me exactly of the debate last year between Lil'Sap and CJ making the roster. IMO Withey has far more value and Exum is coming off of a torn ACL. This is the year to keep 4 PGs and make sure that they have adequate depth. Bolomboy has potential worth keeping. I think CJ is maxed out. He's the guy you cut.
 
Was going to say a better comp for CJ is Elijah Millsap. Great energy, but can't shoot. CJ is going to look good in a Stars jersey.
 
CJ has a good outside shot and could potentially develop into a 40 percent 3-pt shooter.
Um, no, that would be a massive quantum leap, based on past performance. He was terrible at corner threes last year and poor everywhere else. In fact he was our only shooter who was WORSE from the corner than anywhere else outside the arc.
 
Um, no, that would be a massive quantum leap, based on past performance. He was terrible at corner threes last year and poor everywhere else. In fact he was our only shooter who was WORSE from the corner than anywhere else outside the arc.

84 percent from the foul line for his career -- not bad. His stroke is better than a lot of guys on the team with much higher percentages. I'm talking potential. Maybe I'm wrong but if you look at his shooting mechanics, I think it's possible
 
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