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Chris Johnson is a Keeper

You guys who say CJ can't shoot are not really looking at his shot, his form, his release. Potentially he could be a good 3-pt shooter. DMC's shot wasn't any better and maybe not as good. I also disagree with those who question his D. He moves his feet well and his hands are active, and he's very fast, much like Matthews who could really get down the court quickly -- not sure after his injuries if Matthews still has that flash of speed though. In any case, Matthews and DMC both blew up after we let them go. I think we will be making a similar mistake with CJ, though he probably will never be as good as those two.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
You guys who say CJ can't shoot are not really looking at his shot, his form, his release. Potentially he could be a good 3-pt shooter. DMC's shot wasn't any better and maybe not as good. I also disagree with those who question his D. He moves his feet well and his hands are active, and he's very fast, much like Matthews who could really get down the court quickly -- not sure after his injuries if Matthews still has that flash of speed though. In any case, Matthews and DMC both blew up after we let them go. I think we will be making a similar mistake with CJ, though he probably will never be as good as those two.
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Probably not really comparable. We knew we wanted Matthews we just didn't want to match what Portland offered him. With DMC the comparison may be more valid but my fuzzy recollection is that we similarly knew DMC was starting to be pretty useful but wanted to go another direction or didn't want to pay what the market was willing to pay. Nobody is beating the door down or waiting in line to pay CJ and entice him away from the Jazz. If his shot were more reliable they might.
 
Watcher said:
Probably not really comparable. We knew we wanted Matthews we just didn't want to match what Portland offered him. With DMC the comparison may be more valid but my fuzzy recollection is that we similarly knew DMC was starting to be pretty useful but wanted to go another direction or didn't want to pay what the market was willing to pay. Nobody is beating the door down or waiting in line to pay CJ and entice him away from the Jazz. If his shot were more reliable they might.
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It was a money issue with Matthews. With DMC, Corbin was the one who held him back and I think that had a role in the Jazz losing him. Matthews is a more similar player; he didn't have a great 3-point shot when he came to the Jazz. He was a slasher. I still don't understand why people keep saying CJ doesn't have a good shot. I think they are looking at stats rather than his actual shot.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
It was a money issue with Matthews. With DMC, Corbin was the one who held him back and I think that had a role in the Jazz losing him. Matthews is a more similar player; he didn't have a great 3-point shot when he came to the Jazz. He was a slasher. I still don't understand why people keep saying CJ doesn't have a good shot. I think they are looking at stats rather than his actual shot.
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How many teams tell a player, "you have a nice looking shot so, even though it rarely goes in the hoop, we really want you"? Eventually your value is in your production. I like a lot of what CJ does but until he proves otherwise his shot is a liability.

As for Matthews, he made 63 3-point shots with the Jazz -- shooting 38% on threes. And he shot 48% overall. From almost the moment he got playing time due to injury he started making things happen. CJ has never come close to providing the kind of value or showing the promise that Matthews did. Otherwise Portland would have tried to steal CJ from us by now.
 
Watcher said:
How many teams tell a player, "you have a nice looking shot so, even though it rarely goes in the hoop, we really want you"? Eventually your value is in your production. I like a lot of what CJ does but until he proves otherwise his shot is a liability.

As for Matthews, he made 63 3-point shots with the Jazz -- shooting 38% on threes. And he shot 48% overall. From almost the moment he got playing time due to injury he started making things happen. CJ has never come close to providing the kind of value or showing the promise that Matthews did. Otherwise Portland would have tried to steal CJ from us by now.
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I never said CJ was a good as Matthews; I said they are similar type players. As for his shot, I still dispute you because you're going by stats. I've been to a few Jazz games in person and CJ has a good stroke. He's 84 percent career from the foul line and I believe he could shoot 40 percent from three.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I never said CJ was a good as Matthews; I said they are similar type players.
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Fair enough.

As for his shot, I still dispute you because you're going by stats. I've been to a few Jazz games in person and CJ has a good stroke. He's 84 percent career from the foul line and I believe he could shoot 40 percent from three.
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Maybe he could. If he ever does he'll be in demand.
 
He can't shoot or dribble, but does play good defense. It's not enough in the NBA though. He's 26, would have showed something the last couple years if he was rotation material.
 
JAZZGASM said:
I think he sucks.
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he's a 15th-man kind of guy. No doubt. But you just want a good locker room guy with hustle and heart. You can do worse than CJ. I'm not going to cry if he gets cut, but I'll root for him if he is able to stick.
 
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