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Clayton or Collier?

Who Will Be Better?

  • Collier

  • Clayton

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Really different players in terms of where they make their impacts on the floor. I think the more interesting question of how many minutes they may be able to share the floor.

Clayton’s shooting gives him an obvious edge. But this team is so bereft of good passers—and that gives Collier a wide lane here.
 
The second Walt shows that he can drive against a press and start our team's offense on every possession, he will start for the rest of his rookie contract. At this time Collier can't reliably generate good passing lanes against standard NBA set defense because his shot is absolutely busted. I don't foresee this changing.

- George
 
Hopefully the competition makes them both better. I see Collier starting just because he has more seniority and we aren't in a rush to win.
 
Collier just always seems out of control. Sometimes it works nicely but other times it gets him in trouble and he has to do something stupid with the ball. Clayton seems to have, or will have a better pace and ability to get the team in the offense.
 
Collier has a lot of talent, and if harnessed can be a force. Some of his passes are electric, and highlight worthy.
I just wish he would be more focused and in control. He did play better(less wreckless) in Vegas last night than he did in Salt Lake.

Clayton plays so smooth and fearless, and has a better 3 point shot.

I think it all adds up to Walk eventually being the man because of his control, and shooting. It will be a fun battle though.
 
Just one word and the word is a number - 446. That’s the number of assists that Isaiah Collier had last year in surpassing John Stockton for the Club Rookie Assist Record.
 
Isaiah 1:13 said:
Just one word and the word is a number - 446. That’s the number of assists that Isaiah Collier had last year in surpassing John Stockton for the Club Rookie Assist Record.
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Collier averaged 25.9 MIN and 6 AST, Stockton averaged 18.1 MIN and 5.2 AST. That's 8 min more/game than Stockton. But Collier played 71 games and Stockton 82. Stockton had about 1475 min total and Collier 1800.
 
If we are being honest here, the first thing the Jazz do next year is use their pick on Peterson or use that trade exception on a point guard. Clayton and Collier are competing for the eventual backup slot and I feel both can easily get there, which makes me happy.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Not going to do this based on summer league.
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That’s stupid logic. That’s all we have to go on right now they are both playing. Who looks better to you this is a jazz fan board. When the regular season starts no one will even think about summer league, but how else are we going to discuss this in what other context till preseason starts? We get it it’s preseason but that’s what is relevant right now. Lol
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
One season you break the rookie assist record set by John Stockton the next the fans want to replace you with an older rookie PG
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I blame AA. Between Collier and Harkless, the point guard position was an absolute non-issue. What kind of exec becomes so enamored with a Senior six foot nothing point guard that he trades up three spots giving up three second round picks when he all he had to do was stand pat and collect a skilled positionless full sized player in Kas or McNealey at #21. Since then, we’ve given up Sexton and a second for Nurkic, bought out Clarkson and turned John Collins into a second and two far lesser players. This is the same guy that as an exec in Boston, tried feverishly to sell Brad Stevens on trading Porzingis and Jrue for Lauri.:rolleyes:

A recent Reddit post detailed how AA has gotten every position he ever had from Pop’s influence:

Austin Ainge’s entire career path has been paved by his dad, Danny Ainge.

  • Southern Utah Assistant Coach (2007): His first coaching gig came under Roger Reid, a family friend who coached with Danny at BYU and the Suns.
  • Maine Red Claws Head Coach (2009): The Red Claws were the Celtics’ G-League affiliate. Who was running the Celtics at the time? Danny Ainge.
  • Celtics Front Office (2011–2025): He went from Director of Player Personnel to Assistant GM all while Danny was President of Basketball Operations.
  • Utah Jazz President of Basketball Ops (2025): Now he’s heading up basketball ops for the Jazz, where his dad just so happens to be CEO.
 
framer said:
If we are being honest here, the first thing the Jazz do next year is use their pick on Peterson or use that trade exception on a point guard. Clayton and Collier are competing for the eventual backup slot and I feel both can easily get there, which makes me happy.
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I still think Key is going to cement himself as the longterm starting pg this year.
 
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