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CNNSI, Point Forward Jazz Contenders or Pretenders

Qman

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https://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/01/16/the-jazz-contenders-or-pretenders/

There are lots of reasons to be skeptical of the Jazz, who sit third in the Western Conference at 8-4 and are throwing an unexpected monkey wrench in the playoff race. Six of their eight wins have come against lottery teams or very borderline playoff contenders, including home wins over Milwaukee without Andrew Bogut, New Orleans without Eric Gordon, a Memphis team in the early stages of adapting to Zach Randolph’s absence, and a road win over a Warriors team missing Stephen Curry.

The Jazz are also doing this with very few standout or even unexpectedly good performances. Devin Harris has never played worse, to the point that he’s basically splitting point guard duties with Earl Watson. Gordon Hayward has improved his all-around game with more minutes, but he’s shooting just 42 percent. C.J. Miles is shooting 33.7 percent and just hasn’t found a way to contribute consistently in the half court. The other young guys — Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, Alec Burks — have all shown flashes, but only Favors logs significant minutes.

Raja Bell has recovered from an awful start to the point that he’s playable. Josh Howard has been a nice surprise, with energetic play on both ends, but it’s hard to envision him contributing more than his league-average PER. And Al Jefferson, though playing decent interior defense, is still fundamentally the same player — efficient post game, few free throws, fewer assists, even fewer turnovers.

Everything about the team screams “average.” Utah ranks 14th in points scored and allowed per possession. It has scored and allowed the same number of total points through 12 games, a number that can actually be read as a positive, since it was minus-42 after two games and has pulled even since. It ranks between seventh and 16th in seven of the eight so-called “four factors” categories on offense and defense, and it ranks terribly in the one category (foul rate on defense) in which it is outside of that middling spectrum. The Jazz still don’t take or make three-pointers, something that would create fatal spacing issues for most offenses.

Even their schedule sends mixed messages: While they have had a fairly easy slate of wins, they have beaten two quality opponents — Philadelphia and Denver, the latter on Sunday night — and all of their 12 games have come in six separate back-to-back sets. The Jazz had no significant rest advantage or disadvantage overall.

So how is this team 8-4? And is that record a legitimate indicator of how good they really are? The first is easy to answer. The second is more difficult, though I’ll go on record now and say I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the Jazz make the postseason.

They’re winning for two broad reasons:

• Paul Millsap has been an absolute beast, and he and Al Jefferson give the Jazz a Grizzlies/Lakers-style two-man post attack around which they can build a legitimate NBA offense. These two were here last season, but Millsap has never been this good. He has never cracked 20 in PER in any season but stands at 25.9 now, seventh overall, looking right down at Kevin Love, Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul. He is shooting a career-best 55 percent, including a ridiculous 57 percent on long two-point jumpers, according to Hoopdata. He’s rebounding more than ever before, creating some off the dribble, and has managed to cut his turnover rate down to Jefferson-like levels.

If you are going to score enough to stay afloat despite the absence of a single above-average perimeter player or a pick-and-roll game, your post attack better be off-the-charts dynamite. Millsap and Jefferson have pulled the trick so far. The Jazz can enter the ball confidently to either and cut/spot-up around them, and Millsap works especially well from the high post as triple threat.

It will be hard for Millsap to keep up this level of scoring and efficiency, meaning Utah will have to get more from its guard/wing brigade at some point in order to avoid a collapse in scoring. Howard is doing more than expected, and Hayward should continue to improve. At some point, Harris and Miles are going to have to show up.

• Utah’s defense has improved dramatically, in lots of ways. The Jazz allowed the same number of points per possession last season as the Knicks and Wizards, which is to say they were awful. Average is a huge improvement over awful.

A few things are driving that improvement, and time will tell how sustainable they are. Perhaps most important: The Jazz have morphed from a bad defensive rebounding team – 27th overall in defensive rebounding rate last season – into an average one (14th so far this season). Millsap has upped his rebounding numbers, Jefferson has maintained his, and the Favors/Kanter duo off the bench is gobbling up everything sight. The wing players are (mostly) capable rebounders, but the Jazz haven’t needed them much yet.

Given the size and skill of the bigs, Utah should be able to maintain at least average numbers on the glass.

The next thing is more pressing: Opponents are throwing up bricks, especially from the perimeter, where Utah was sieve-like last season. Only the epically bad Cavaliers allowed opponents to shoot better from three last season, but Utah is holding opponents so far this season to just 32 percent shooting from deep — the 11th-stingiest mark in the brickier-than-usual post-lockout NBA. Teams aren’t taking many triples, either; only five teams have allowed fewer three-point attempts per game.

The Jazz’ size and shot-blocking are also deterring teams from getting close to the rim. Utah has allowed just 19.7 shots per game at the rim, the third-lowest average in the league and a significant drop from the 23 such shots per game they allowed on average last season, per Hoopdata.

In short: The Jazz have redistributed opponent shot attempts from the most efficient places — at the rim and behind the three-point line — to the mid-range area, which is far less efficient.

How legitimate is this? Well, with the 6-foot-7 Howard on board and the 6-8 Hayward getting more minutes, Utah can throw some long wing combinations out there. It has also been diligent in running teams off the three-point line, and it’s playing disciplined, well-organized defense, with all five guys working on a string.

Jefferson and Millsap are working hard, but neither is ever going to be a game-changing defender, particularly when it comes to containing pick-and-rolls on the perimeter. Opponents are still eating up the Jazz on these plays; Utah ranks 25th in points allowed per possession on pick-and-rolls in which the ball-handler finishes the play, a small improvement on last season’s No. 29 ranking, according to Synergy Sports. Guards are going to be able to turn the corner on Millsap and (especially) Jefferson, but Jefferson’s effort level has been noticeably better, and the rotations behind them are rock solid.

Don’t be surprised if the Jazz play decent, league-average defense all season, even if a few more perimeter shots fall here and there. It’s the offense that carries warning signs. If the Jazz don’t find more consistent help for the Jefferson/Millsap pairing, they are going to have trouble scoring enough to play .500 ball the rest of the way.
 
very fair.

calling out Hayward, Harris, CJ, Burks...

(wow, Harris has been bad bad bad)
 
Spot on. Does anybody know our fast break numbers? They seem to be extra low this year. Plus we don't shoot threes or make them. Maybe that will change when teams start better scouting Milsap and Jefferson which will open up some space out there.

I think for my sanity this year I'll take the perspective that any success this year is just frosting on the cake. Yes we're flawed but we find ways to win.
 
Pretty close.
I still believe the Jazz are a lot better than average, and are going to continue sticking it to the haters.
I predicted the Jazz would be 10 games over .500 at the beginning of the season.
 
.500 ball the rest of the year? Might be harsh; might not be.

Would rather the jazz be underrated and overdeliver.

We've got him right where we want him ;).
 
Extremely accurate. Very good article. If our wings and Harris don't pick up their games we can't be a consistently good team.
 
I think the article is missing a lot on the depth of this team. I don't have the stats but I believe our leads and point seperation is from our second unit dominating the oppenents second unit.
 
I might be the only one who thinks Harris is playing the best games of his Jazz career right now. His shots might not be on, but his assists have gone up and he's running the offense the way it's supposed to be run. If you're looking at the boxscore though like this writer probably did, Harris is playing awful.
 
Weezur,


I might be the only one who thinks Harris is playing the best games of his Jazz career right now. His shots might not be on, but his assists have gone up and he's running the offense the way it's supposed to be run. If you're looking at the boxscore though like this writer probably did, Harris is playing awful.

Wow!! How can anyone actually watch the games and conclude that Harris is playing great ? He has played a little better in the past two and i hope that continues. His backup is outplaying him to a considerable degree and i have not heard from anyone anywhere that Watson should be starting because the whole world knows he is not a starting point guard in this league. He (Harris) is a better player than he has showed this season.
 
Weezur,


I might be the only one who thinks Harris is playing the best games of his Jazz career right now. His shots might not be on, but his assists have gone up and he's running the offense the way it's supposed to be run. If you're looking at the boxscore though like this writer probably did, Harris is playing awful.

Wow!! How can anyone actually watch the games and conclude that Harris is playing great ? He has played a little better in the past two and i hope that continues. His backup is outplaying him to a considerable degree and i have not heard from anyone anywhere that Watson should be starting because the whole world knows he is not a starting point guard in this league. He (Harris) is a better player than he has showed this season.

Yep, I'm the only one, then.
Look at how he's running the pick and rolls with Big Al and Milsap next time there's a game on. I didn't ever see him run a picknroll last year with the Jazz. He's running the offense much better. But hey, that's just me. He hasn't been amazing or even great, but he has been playing the Jazz PG spot the best he's ever played it.
 
Harris is simply not playing at a $10 million a year in his prime level. He hasn't been putrid.

That's where Harris is at right now. I like that he's taking and making spot-up 3s, though.
 
I think it was mentioned but I think one key piece is Favors/Kanter and the change in philosophy with forcing baseline. They mentioned our pressure on the 3's which with the big men inside forces mid range jumpers, which is the best shot you can give up.

Regarding the Harris issue - I have long been a supporter of Harris as I have always hoped he would return to Dallas form but I just don't see it. For the money, he is not a good value. What he is doign right now to adjust though and the leadership I think he gives this team with Watson from the point is exactally what this team needs. Long term... no... this year... yes.


Rep'd for posting this - thank you.
 
Harris has been better this year while putting up poor numbers. He's playing better D and we are seeing less of him crashing into 2+ defenders under the rim. Utah is running the offense through other players which accounts for a lot of his statistical decline.

You're not the only one, although I would like to see some more out of Harris. Specifically I'd like to see the toughness that the others are starting to display. That attitude is what keeps Watson on the court.

I agree with Beans in that the writer is largely ignoring the obscene depth in talent this team has, although he touched on the versatility.
 
Good analysis,
i think Miami is the best team and will be champions for sure, then there are couple of elite teams, chicago, lakers, orlando.. we dont have much difference with teams after top 5 but we rank between top 10-15 in the league. We arent that good yet to be a contender for sure.
 
The Jazz are relying on Jefferson and Millsap to have efficient games from the floor, basically. If that happens, the Jazz generally win. If that doesn't happen, the Jazz generally lose.

The Jazz rebound and defend pretty well, but they're just not an offensively rich team. Aside from Jefferson and Millsap, Howard is probably their next best scorer. Harris, Hayward and Bell are basically ball movers. Miles and Burks keep getting their chance to shine, but they have only flickered a little so far. If the Jazz had a Jason Terry-type player, he'd be getting open looks all night playing off our bigs.

That is an excellent article. Nice post.
 
I think the article was fairly good but I think he is missing Howard's contribution, Watson above average play (almost as many mins as Harris), and he most importantly has missed that the bench is really good. Our drop from starters to bench isn't nearly as drastic as most teams. He is also missing that many of our players will improve all year as we are very young.
 
I don't think this writer has a clue about Millsap though.
Of course he played his best basketball at the first half of the season.... right before Jerry Sloan retired and Williams was traded away.
 
The Jazz are neither contenders or pretenders at this point. They are a young team with a bright future. They are not yet contenders, nor do they pretend to be.

They are, however, getting better very quickly and could very well be contenders in the next few years.
 
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