There are plenty of minutes to go around if we stop messing around with Svi, Love and keep Nurk around 20 minutes.
Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread
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seattlejazzfan
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seattlejazzfan
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I agree, but Hardy IS going to play those guys. It’s a pipe dream to think otherwise. Just isn’t reality. And frankly they deserve to be out there. I’d be fine if they never played a minute, but I understand why they do play.
Last night (and the last few games) it was Cody who subbed in for Bailey when he should have remained in the game.
While it isn’t realistic to think he’d sit Nurk, Svi, Love, etc, Hardy has shown he will sit young players. Clayton, Sensabaugh, Williams and Hendricks have all had stretches when they didn’t play.
seattlejazzfan
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Cody’s shooting splits this season: 32/11/33. His PER is 2. No typos.
Cy said in another thread not even people who didn’t like him as a prospect thought he’d be THIS bad. I can confirm that is true. I don’t know if there has ever been an NBA player who has been this bad. It is true I didn’t see him in the conversation for worst player in NBA history.
If it’s tanking we want Jazz will tank just fine with Sensabaugh getting those minutes at that wing spot. Williams doesn’t deserve to be on an NBA court.
Cy said in another thread not even people who didn’t like him as a prospect thought he’d be THIS bad. I can confirm that is true. I don’t know if there has ever been an NBA player who has been this bad. It is true I didn’t see him in the conversation for worst player in NBA history.
If it’s tanking we want Jazz will tank just fine with Sensabaugh getting those minutes at that wing spot. Williams doesn’t deserve to be on an NBA court.
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Cody should go back to the Gleague and take 10-15 shots a night. He's got to figure out how to score or it's over for him.
The Jazz ditched Ochai because he wasn't a reliable shooter, and Ochai was a better shooter than Cody.
The Jazz ditched Ochai because he wasn't a reliable shooter, and Ochai was a better shooter than Cody.
In all seriousness this is a good point. While this has been contested, I do indeed think that minutes are good for development. Cody doesn’t have to get more minutes than Brice/Walt/TH and I don’t think he should. But I’d also say there are other players on this team that don’t need to be playing as many minutes as they do. Brice and Walt in particular would be in much higher priority for me than they are for Hardy.
It’s kinda sad that the only respectable way to give Cody minutes is in the name of tanking. If he’s actually getting minutes because we want to invest in him more than other prospects because we think he’s better, that’s just a failure in evaluation. The FO did pick up his option, so it looks like we do believe in him to some extent. Maybe they just don’t want to admit failure so soon.
I don’t want to keep piling on, but he truly is a horrible prospect. He’s like a B level on ball defender but is still a negative defender because he’s horrible at the other aspects of defense. He’s F tier in so many facets of the game. The only intrigue he has is that he was once a top 10 pick, and he was only a top 10 pick because his brother was good.
jom2003
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Yep, and like seriously why weren't Hendricks getting min?
I think the Jazz are playing Cody because he actually rotates defensively, slows down the ball handler, cuts off drives in the paint and makes good closeouts. Like I've said, defensively Cody has been fine. Meanwhile, Brice and Walt have been soft defensively. They get blown by, and their contests are often late or ineffective. If you're going to play guys at the 5 like Love and even Nurkic, who are limited paint defenders, then you need to try to stave off penetration. Right now, Cody is one of the few guys we have who can do that.
Cody's problem is on offense. Since Ainge took over the team, the Jazz have moved on from guys who can't shoot--e.g., Bolmaro, Vanderbilt, THT, Agbaji, etc. (They might even have given up on Nickeil for that reason.) Cody looks like he's falling in this category. That puts him on a clock.
Guys like Nickeil and Vanderbilt tend to stick around the league, but you'll notice that they're now both on their 4th team.
Cody's problem is on offense. Since Ainge took over the team, the Jazz have moved on from guys who can't shoot--e.g., Bolmaro, Vanderbilt, THT, Agbaji, etc. (They might even have given up on Nickeil for that reason.) Cody looks like he's falling in this category. That puts him on a clock.
Guys like Nickeil and Vanderbilt tend to stick around the league, but you'll notice that they're now both on their 4th team.
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outerspacefan
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I've never been fond of talking, being detrimental, on jazzmen that appear to not belong in tha NBA, so I won't do it...
Cody is not a good defensive player. “Fine” means he’s an average/above average defender but there are more aspects to defense than that. He provides zero off ball help, zero defensive playmaking, zero rebounding, and he fouls a lot.
He’s 1 percentile in defensive EPM. That probably underrates him, but in reality he’s probably like a 25th percentile defender when you consider overall defensive impact.
He’s 1 percentile in defensive EPM. That probably underrates him, but in reality he’s probably like a 25th percentile defender when you consider overall defensive impact.