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Colton's Mock Draft Compilation, v. 10.0

Remember this here fella? Just one example of about 20 intl bigs who were supposed to be as amazing as kanter.

https://www.nba.com/playerfile/maciej_lampe/index.html

The there was kanters older brother, Pavel. Leading up to the draft many had him pegged as possible number 3 but no lower than top 5. The siberian shaq he was called. I guess its a little like calling kanter the turkish mailman, right?

https://www.nba.com/playerfile/pavel_podkolzin/index.html

https://www.nbadraft.net/forum/magical-internet-archive-pavel-podkolzine
 
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Did those guys have any sort of resume like Kanter? Look at the league Kanter played in. Look at his play from big games (all-star like or not) vs. top flight competition like Sullinger, Terrence Jones, Perry Jones, Irving, Knight, etc. Yes, he didn't play at UK but Calipari knows talent and according to multiple sources, the kid is better than many NBA players already. He's not just big like those clowns. He performs on the court too.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Did those guys have any sort of resume like Kanter? Look at the league Kanter played in. Look at his play from big games (all-star like or not) vs. top flight competition like Sullinger, Terrence Jones, Perry Jones, Irving, Knight, etc. Yes, he didn't play at UK but Calipari knows talent and according to multiple sources, the kid is better than many NBA players already. He's not just big like those clowns. He performs on the court too.
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Those clowns performed in the euro leagues too...

I'm not impressed by an exhibition game, sorry.
 
kanter
year league team gp min pts fg fga fg% 2pt 2pta 2p% 3pt 3pta 3p% ftm fta ft% off def tot asts stls blks tos pfs
2008/09 euro fenerbahce ulker 4 7.8 2.0 0.8 1.8 42.9 0.8 1.8 42.9 0.0 0.0 0.5 0.8 66.7 0.3 1.3 1.5 0.0 0.3 0.0 0.5 0.8

from draftexpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/enes-kanter-5168/stats/#ixzz1nri9py1e
https://www.draftexpress.com
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lampe
season: 2010-2011 (euroleague )
summary
t eam g min pts 2fgp 3fgp ft ro rd rt as pf bs st to
unics kazan 4 124 78 28-51 3-9 13-21 7 20 27 4 7 2 5 2
average
unics kazan 4 31.0 19.5 54.9% 33.3% 61.9% 1.8 5.0 6.8 1.0 1.8 0.5 1.3 0.5
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KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Did those guys have any sort of resume like Kanter? Look at the league Kanter played in. Look at his play from big games (all-star like or not) vs. top flight competition like Sullinger, Terrence Jones, Perry Jones, Irving, Knight, etc. Yes, he didn't play at UK but Calipari knows talent and according to multiple sources, the kid is better than many NBA players already. He's not just big like those clowns. He performs on the court too.
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You are joking right? NO defensive strategy was applied here. NONE. You think that if scouted and that game meant a damn he would have produced what he did? And yes those players came highly regarded. Heres a few more of these amazing game changing bigs that were supposed take the nba by storm and had sites such as this giddy as they are now with kanter for no damn reason.

Glassman aka adrynas. Has his face blasted in by some thug in the dleague. Was at one point considered a top 5 cant miss prospect. All the accolades of the mythical kanter

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Martynas-Andriuskevicius-40/


Then there was skita. Man they said this guy plays like guard. Very special.

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nikoloz-Tskitishvili-4651/stats/

Darko. What else can you add here? The guy was picked ahead of melo, bosh, wade and many others i dont need to mention all because he was a rare euro, a physical one withva soft touch and the willingness to bang inside. Ok, epic fail but he can say he at least outlasted pavel.

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nikoloz-Tskitishvili-4651/stats/

Look my pointis that these types of players get crazy hype and everyone wanted them and they all busted. There are many more examples you can take your pick from. This enes mania is nothing diffrent than what was going on with these other clowns.
 
BOX said:
You are joking right? NO defensive strategy was applied here. NONE. You think that if scouted and that game meant a damn he would have produced what he did? And yes those players came highly regarded. Heres a few more of these amazing game changing bigs that were supposed take the nba by storm and had sites such as this giddy as they are now with kanter for no damn reason.

Glassman aka adrynas. Has his face blasted in by some thug in the dleague. Was at one point considered a top 5 cant miss prospect. All the accolades of the mythical kanter

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Martynas-Andriuskevicius-40/


Then there was skita. Man they said this guy plays like guard. Very special.

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nikoloz-Tskitishvili-4651/stats/

Darko. What else can you add here? The guy was picked ahead of melo, bosh, wade and many others i dont need to mention all because he was a rare euro, a physical one withva soft touch and the willingness to bang inside. Ok, epic fail but he can say he at least outlasted pavel.

https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nikoloz-Tskitishvili-4651/stats/

Look my pointis that these types of players get crazy hype and everyone wanted them and they all busted. There are many more examples you can take your pick from. This enes mania is nothing diffrent than what was going on with these other clowns.
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Yawn....all those players were 7' 220lb twigs coming into the NBA. Of course they couldn't survive. What is Kanter again? Oh yea, 260 lbs with 5% body fat. The only one that holds any weight is Darko, who was as highly praised as Kanter and had some lofty euro accomplishments. But I can find a dozen shoot first, low efficiency point guards just like Knight that busted as well. The most recent being Johnny Flynn.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Yawn....all those players were 7' 220lb twigs coming into the NBA. Of course they couldn't survive. What is Kanter again? Oh yea, 260 lbs with 5% body fat. The only one that holds any weight is Darko, who was as highly praised as Kanter and had some lofty euro accomplishments. But I can find a dozen shoot first, low efficiency point guards just like Knight that busted as well. The most recent being Johnny Flynn.
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I think people are too passionate about the Kanter versus Knight subject. Not pointing out you on this. You make solid points. Whichever one we draft I am going to be okay with.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Yawn....all those players were 7' 220lb twigs coming into the NBA. Of course they couldn't survive. What is Kanter again? Oh yea, 260 lbs with 5% body fat. The only one that holds any weight is Darko, who was as highly praised as Kanter and had some lofty euro accomplishments. But I can find a dozen shoot first, low efficiency point guards just like Knight that busted as well. The most recent being Johnny Flynn.
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Nice of you to forget pavel or lampe. Wasting key strokes.......
 
BOX said:
Nice of you to forget pavel or lampe. Wasting key strokes.......
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Sorry what were Pavel's accolades again? You are really reaching to laughable points now. He played 10 minutes and averaged 4 points in euro league play. He was drafted because he was 7'5". You will never see ogres like that drafted ever again. The game is just too fast with todays athletes.
 
BOX said:
Nice of you to forget pavel or lampe. Wasting key strokes.......
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Pavel was not remotely regarded as a bball player, he was just huge. Majic was well regarded, but not at the level of Darko/Kanter. Darko is the only comparison i can recall over last 10 years.
 
I think it's funny that all the Kanter haters' first line of defense is that the guy has not played in a meaningful game for a year. This is true. But what gets me is that the overall consensus #1 pick has basically been sitting around for a few months doing absolutely nothing (as evidenced by his 10% body fat) while Kanter has been working his arse off to get into shape and get better. Couple that with the hype that Kanter had coming into UK (some thought he'd be a #1 pick before the season began) and I don't see how anyone can hate the guy. I get it if you'd want Knight over him, but I just don't get the animosity towards him.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Sorry what were Pavel's accolades again? You are really reaching to laughable points now. He played 10 minutes and averaged 4 points in euro league play. He was drafted because he was 7'5". You will never see ogres like that drafted ever again. The game is just too fast with todays athletes.
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Ahhhh...somebody really, REALLY loves kanter. Its kind of cute.
 
If i am guilty of anything its for being a pessimist on this situation. I am never one to follow the flock, i make my own decisions and i perfer knight. I dont hold any hope that kanter will be better than darko ( ill use this example as its been stated he had similar accolades). He does not have a body of work tojudge against so i am not willing to drop a number 3 pick on him. To say he was perhaps considered to be the number one pick is true, but so was ed davis 2010 and he had some college bball experience. Anything can change draft order. Just ask pavel.
 
I agree that Kanter does not even really have a body of work to allow us to evaluate him, so maybe I'm just holding out hope that he can be what some people propose that he can be. And while it is certainly the exception more than it is the rule, plenty of HS stars with little to no body of work to judge against have turned out to be stars. Not saying that Kanter is going to be one, but I will say that an excellent collegiate or european career is not always the determining factor to how good someone can be.
 
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