Conley For Horford Discussion

[LoPo]

Indeed. But at least during the season he looked like a solid vet/backup. But now he looks lost, just like Millsap. I don't get how this could even be a trade idea.

Because it's not just about Horford for Conley. It's about using Philly's desperation and get more assets.

And this idea is only feasible if Conley stinks in the playoffs. So it's TBD anyway.

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[Miggs]

Because it's not just about Horford for Conley. It's about using Philly's desperation and get more assets.

And this idea is only feasible if Conley stinks in the playoffs. So it's TBD anyway.

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There is absolutely nothing TBD about it. It gives us a worse backup 5 (Bradley is better), a worse player (than Conley), and two more ****** years on that contract.

 

[LoPo]

There is absolutely nothing TBD about it. It gives us a worse backup 5 (Bradley is better), a worse player (than Conley), and two more ****** years on that contract.

Be smarter than saying Bradley is better than Horford. That is such an ignorant statement. Horford fits awful next to Embiid because Embiid doesn't set good screens or defend all that well.

Conley for Horford AND ASSETS only IF Conley doesn't fit well in the playoffs.

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[latin jazz]

Because it's not just about Horford for Conley. It's about using Philly's desperation and get more assets.

And this idea is only feasible if Conley stinks in the playoffs. So it's TBD anyway.

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Horford has 3 years reamining in his contract until he is 36, at almost 30M a year. He will soon become washed and thus, one of the worst contracts in the league. You can argue it's one of the worst now as he is looking terrible already. Even if Conley plays only decent bb, he comes off the books in one year and therefore, doesn't cripple our ability to resign Rudy & Donovan without going deep into luxury tax territory. And it's not like you can get great 1st rounders from Philly for acquiring that albatross: they are full of meaningless 2nd rounders. Basketball wise, it makes no sense either: he doesn't fit our system, positional need or timeline. It just doesn't make sense. These are the type of moves you make when you are rebuilding: you absorb a bad contract in order to get decent picks. We are buyers right now, plus Philly assets suck.

You can do better with the trade machine my friend

 

[Jazz4ever]

Be smarter than saying Bradley is better than Horford. That is such an ignorant statement. Horford fits awful next to Embiid because Embiid doesn't set good screens or defend all that well.

Conley for Horford AND ASSETS only IF Conley doesn't fit well in the playoffs.

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It wouldn't be a good fit in Utah either. Embiid is a very good defender, not Rudy level, but good.

 

[Avery]

Holford might just have the worst contract in the NBA. He’s unreadable unless you basically give up more assets if you’re Philly.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Conley decided to end this thread once and for all. S - p - l - a - s - h !

 

[hgb]

only IF Conley doesn't fit well in the playoffs

I feel like the jury came back on this question, and the verdict was unanimous.

 

[LoPo]

I feel like the jury came back on this question, and the verdict was unanimous.

So far, yep. Like I said from the beginning, it was just for conversation and nothing I am pushing.

I love hypotheticals and making conversation. As it stands after Game 4, this conversation can probably end.

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[Miggs]

Horford has 3 years reamining in his contract until he is 36, at almost 30M a year. He will soon become washed and thus, one of the worst contracts in the league. You can argue it's one of the worst now as he is looking terrible already. Even if Conley plays only decent bb, he comes off the books in one year and therefore, doesn't cripple our ability to resign Rudy & Donovan without going deep into luxury tax territory. And it's not like you can get great 1st rounders from Philly for acquiring that albatross: they are full of meaningless 2nd rounders. Basketball wise, it makes no sense either: he doesn't fit our system, positional need or timeline. It just doesn't make sense. These are the type of moves you make when you are rebuilding: you absorb a bad contract in order to get decent picks. We are buyers right now, plus Philly assets suck.

You can do better with the trade machine my friend

Soon become washed? He is washed!

 

[Miggs]

Be smarter than saying Bradley is better than Horford. That is such an ignorant statement. Horford fits awful next to Embiid because Embiid doesn't set good screens or defend all that well.

Conley for Horford AND ASSETS only IF Conley doesn't fit well in the playoffs.

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Embiid doesn’t defend all that well? Are you ****ing retarded?

Seriously, Horford is awful. I wouldn’t want him at 12M let alone 30M...for multiple ****ing years.

It was stupid to even suggest getting him. Seriously, admit your mistake and move on.

 

[LoPo]

Embiid doesn’t defend all that well? Are you ****ing retarded?

Seriously, Horford is awful. I wouldn’t want him at 12M let alone 30M...for multiple ****ing years.

It was stupid to even suggest getting him. Seriously, admit your mistake and move on.

Says the guy who hates on Royce for being overpaid.

Of course your overly emotional self can't comprehend the original idea anyway. The trade idea was rationalizing paying Horford because the ATTACHED ASSETS made the contract acceptable. And this was all on the premise that Conley remained a bad fit.

If Conley was playing as badly the last two games as he did during the season, I would still consider this deal come draft time. Like I said originally, all comes down to the assets Philly would give.

Embiid is not a reliable perimeter defender. Horford, as he ages, is becoming less reliable as well. Pairing them was a mistake.

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