Conley is a chemistry problem and we should trade him

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  1. Jazzta

    Jazzta Guest

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    Lol
     
  2. whatthe

    whatthe Well-Known Member

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    Other teams can sense weakness and exploit it. The job of a professional player is to exploit whatever issues they find in other teams. Right now, for whatever reason, Mountain Mike can't do it. We are in the midst of the season, he had rest. We may get flashes of peak Conley, but I am afraid this is what the Jazz really have in Mike.
     
  3. sahlensguy

    sahlensguy Well-Known Member

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    You did see Rudy pointing out that Conley's lack of flow on the play was the cause for the 3 second violation, right?
     
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  4. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Not really. Had Joe shoot the open 3, that would be it. He decided to do a small fake and go left for the drive. It was more on Joe/Rudy.
     
  5. sahlensguy

    sahlensguy Well-Known Member

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    So you didn't see Rudy pointing it out to Mike?
     
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  6. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    No. You have video?. Was he expecting a lob pass?. Anyway, Conley passed the ball to the corner to Ingles, which is a pretty good shoot but Ingles doubted and Rudy froze. So perhaps Rudy was pointing that there was another option at the rim. Video would be appreciate it, but we will never know what they discussed.

    Do you have additional observations on the other plays mentioned?
     
  7. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    I'm not worried about one play with Rudy getting a 3-sec call. I'm worried that Conley can't get to the rim, doesn't get to the free-throw line, isn't shooting 3s very well and isn't scoring much from mid-range. When he was in Memphis he put pressure on the defense, and now for whatever reason, he doesn't.

    Actually, Conley did get to the free-throw line tonight, so that's an improvement.
     
  8. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    I miss JazzAvenues threads
     
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  9. sahlensguy

    sahlensguy Well-Known Member

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    Plus can't run the bench unit.

    Honestly Mudiay was making a bigger difference.
     
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  10. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Trevor Ariza seems to have come back to life in Portland. He would have been a good get.
     
  11. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he looks passive. At least he was more aggressive getting to the rim tonight.
     
  12. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    At least POR kicked Houston's ***. I will sleep better.
     
  13. mdalby

    mdalby Well-Known Member

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    Amen!
     
  14. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Me too, though we could end up in a 3rd-seed / 6th-seed matchup with them.
     
  15. jope

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    Jazz are now 12-11 when Mike plays > 20 mins. Jazz are 20-4 when he plays < 20 / doesn’t play.
     
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  16. jom2003

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    mike conley TANK COMMANDER status confirmed
     
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  17. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Ohhhh... well that’s not ideal
     
  18. Jingled

    Jingled Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Ouch. I still think it's unlikely he gets traded but you have to think the front office is at least considering it at this point. It just hasn't worked out at all.
     
  19. jazfan23

    jazfan23 Well-Known Member

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    I’m sure the Jazz coaching staff can see this , but the more Conley plays , the less effective Ingles is .

    When Joe plays the point forward ... the offence runs so much better ... put Conley in and the ball just sticks

    Mike just doesn’t work ...
     
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  20. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Correlation doesn't equal causation. Mike playing over 20min coincides with our brutal part of the schedule and our bench being non-existent. As Locke pointed out, Conley had a positive +/- as a starter. Him not playing overlaps with one of the easiest schedules in the league (playing only one team over .500). And now we are playing big teams again, which is exposing some weaknesses but everyone is quick to point at Conley as the culprit.

    If you look closely, our perimeter defense is at fault: Ingles, Royce and Bojan has been unable to defend big scoring threats. Even Donovan has been average at that end.
     
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