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. . .Her guest stated that Karl Marx invented the term "Capitalist", and hung it on his book Das Kapital. Before that, in the English language, it was called "Freedom". The Right to take care of your own damn ***. . .
Not true. The guest is misinformed or lying. The term “capitalist” was used many times by many authors (see David Ricardo for just one example) for many years before Marx. My guess is that Johnson’s guest is lying because a good faith argument on the various forms of capitalism is too hard and nuanced. Laissez-faire proponents (the so-called ”freedom capitalists”) set up Marxism or socialism as straw men because laissez-faire capitalism versus a modern mixed capitalist economy is a losing argument. Mixed economies are wildly popular and have been for a hundred years, from the very beginnings of FDR’s New Deal right up to the present day.
 
So, listening to Sonnie Johnson's program this weekend on XM 125 The Patriot, she had a guest in who has studied politics some. Now, for context, Sonnie is really hopeful for the Black Race entrepreneur class. She wants her people to just take care of themselves, and get filthy rich doing it. That's why she rejected progressivism, and has moved on, outta the ghetto, outta the drug culture, outta the gangs, outta the Dem politics.

Her guest stated that Karl Marx invented the term "Capitalist", and hung it on his book Das Kapital. Before that, in the English language, it was called "Freedom". The Right to take care of your own damn ***.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), the term capitalism was first used by novelist William Makepeace Thackeray in 1854 in The Newcomes, where he meant "having ownership of capital"
 
Been busy with football season...miss me? I would like to state that many on here suffer from TDS. How they can defend Obama using the IRS to go after conservatives, let the justice department agencies spy on the Trump campaign and have a insurance policy in place to remove him if he was elected is unbelievable to me. Heck they even used foreign spies from multiple countries (Australia, Italy and England) to do what ours could not do by law to entrap those associated with the Trump campaign.

Keep hating Trump...I will love to rub it in if he gets re-elected. If he doesn't get re-elected I will not post on jazzfanz for a year due to my private bet with revolutionary 9 (a Mod), who told me he thought Hillary would be a better president than Trump. Did you know they wrote Hillary's exronaration months before they interviewed her, did not tape her interview and gave her aids amnesty? They even let her aids sit in on Hillary's interview.

Tell me truly how do you hate Trump so much while ignoring the bad the democrats and main stream media do?
 
The important thing is we now all have a place to air our petty grievances safe in the knowledge that the despicable poster will never read them since he has the OP on ignore. Stand up behavior all around. . .

That’s on him. Not me. So save the fake righteous outrage. I’ve told him this directly before.
 
Not true. The guest is misinformed or lying. The term “capitalist” was used many times by many authors (see David Ricardo for just one example) for many years before Marx. My guess is that Johnson’s guest is lying because a good faith argument on the various forms of capitalism is too hard and nuanced. Laissez-faire proponents (the so-called ”freedom capitalists”) set up Marxism or socialism as straw men because laissez-faire capitalism versus a modern mixed capitalist economy is a losing argument. Mixed economies are wildly popular and have been for a hundred years, from the very beginnings of FDR’s New Deal right up to the present day.

I'd go with the uninformed hypothesis here. Since posting the above, I looked him up online. I found him being interviewed by Alex Jones and elsewhere being outed as an "alt-right" activist. I like him. He's a good black advocate of change, just willing to take the extreme positions for the jive.

But, while I don't care to dispute your citations of earlier usages, I'll side with him to the extent that the term "Capitalist" has been hijacked politically by the agenda wonks for elitist governance. In the interview I listened to, which I got to hear twice, he clearly describes how it's been used politically. I'm certain he doesn't giveadamn whether the word was in a dictionary before the agenda wonks woke it up and made it front and center on the bogeyman parade of human evils.

He says that the political method uses it to vilify personal initiative and to promote social or government management. He's absolutely spot on.

and, oh, for the record..... I have watched my wife's Jane Austen movie collection, and right there, circa 1802, Jane Austen has fat gents using the word "capital" like it's the best thing ever, or at least since suspenders. So, technically, you are correct about the existence of the word, in social polite society, decades before Marx.

I get the drift you are a fan of mixed economic systems part socialist and part capitalist. I don't know much about you. Are you a Rio Tinto exec? In that crowd you'd have to stick pretty close to the positions I've seen you take. Should I buy stock in Rio Tinto?????

I always hated Kennecott, or whatever the hell it was being called. Bought up and worked into a cartelist operation by the Rockefellers, who sold to the Gugenheims who sold it and whoever the hell ever had it sold it on out and down to BP and the Queen, influential as hell in Utah. I knew some of the people. Owns the whole damn mountain. Not sure who owns who now, the Mormons own the Queen or the Queen owns the Mormons, which is it.

But kept Magna from going suburban or even being a real city. All kinds of people there. One of the best places for somebody like me, who won't fit in, really, anywhere.

I like mining, though. I favor the idea of a mine actually taking down the mountain and processing it for every resource that's there. And, now, Daybreak is a fine development.
 
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Been busy with football season...miss me? I would like to state that many on here suffer from TDS. How they can defend Obama using the IRS to go after conservatives, let the justice department agencies spy on the Trump campaign and have a insurance policy in place to remove him if he was elected is unbelievable to me. Heck they even used foreign spies from multiple countries (Australia, Italy and England) to do what ours could not do by law to entrap those associated with the Trump campaign.

Keep hating Trump...I will love to rub it in if he gets re-elected. If he doesn't get re-elected I will not post on jazzfanz for a year due to my private bet with revolutionary 9 (a Mod), who told me he thought Hillary would be a better president than Trump. Did you know they wrote Hillary's exronaration months before they interviewed her, did not tape her interview and gave her aids amnesty? They even let her aids sit in on Hillary's interview.

Tell me truly how do you hate Trump so much while ignoring the bad the democrats and main stream media do?

While if I'm not getting confused, this is thread is about Thriller, I like your pluck bringing this in here. So you listen to Hannity I see. lol.

Just what America needs. A conservative bartender talkshow.

I hated him passionately when I started listening to him years ago.... but I'd let him scratch my back and call him bud today. I hated him because he promoted Romney and dissed Ron Paul. I thought he was such a statist, such a shill for the club. Levin makes me mad sometimes because he's such a stick in the mud, but he knows the swamp, and when he uses that stick to smack the swampcritters I cheer.
 
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