Coronavirus

[Al-O-Meter]

This is completely unsurprising. The west and south St. Louis suburbs are largely a creation of white flight after school integration measures, and these people have learned from their parents or sought refuge with like-minded neighbors.

This was a public forum. The council had set up cameras. The news media had set up camera. The members of the public in attendance had cameras, and yet there is no video footage from any of all those cameras showing the claimed racism directed at this mayonnaise complected “person of color”.

What the footage shows is a raucous forum with passionate supporters. Dr. Khan presented his input and was booed. The vote of the council went against his recommendation which prompted some members of the public to jeer Dr. Khan who responded by flipping the bird. When news media went to confront Dr. Khan for his unprofessional display he spouted this story of racism, racism everywhere.

Obviously I wasn’t there and it is possible there may be damning footage I haven’t seen but being that I have seen video including from outlets who would absolutely show this display of racism if they had it, I’m skeptical.

 

[One Brow]

This was a public forum. The council had set up cameras. The news media had set up camera. The members of the public in attendance had cameras, and yet there is no video footage from any of all those cameras showing the claimed racism directed at this mayonnaise complected “person of color”.

I am really curious at the source of your claim, especially for the claim on non-existence. How hard do you think I had to look?

Dr. Faisal Khan testified before the St. Louis County Council on July 27, 2021

Dr. Faisal Khan's testimony begins at around the 28 minute mark and continues for approximately 37 minutes.

www.stltoday.com

I heard the dog-whistle clear as day. I heard four interruptions in the first 20 minutes of Dr. Khan's talk, two or three of which were gaveled down by the chair. So, whatever sources you used, they lied to you, and in a manner that couldn't survive the mildest of inspection, and you swallowed up that lie eagerly. Is that who you want to be?

Extra kudos for pretending being light-skinned would mean Dr. Khan would not be subject to racism. Are you really that ignorant? You never heard of, for example, the "one drop" standard?

By the way, listen to the next speaker. It would be hilarious, if not so sad.

What the footage shows is a raucous forum with passionate supporters. Dr. Khan presented his input and was booed. The vote of the council went against his recommendation which prompted some members of the public to jeer Dr. Khan who responded by flipping the bird. When news media went to confront Dr. Khan for his unprofessional display he spouted this story of racism, racism everywhere.

Dr. Kahn left the room right after his talk, it's quite clear on the video.

Obviously I wasn’t there and it is possible there may be damning footage I haven’t seen but being that I have seen video including from outlets who would absolutely show this display of racism if they had it, I’m skeptical.

Yet, you didn't bother to offer links to this video. I wonder if it shows what you claim.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

You never heard of, for example, the "one drop" standard?

Of course I've heard of the "one drop" standard that was used by racists but it has long been a laughing stock now that DNA shows that nearly everyone, even Elizabeth Warren, has "one drop". These days the only people I hear use it are light complected multiracial people who desperately want some sort of status. I never hear it the other way around but I don't run in those circles so I guess it is possible.

 

[One Brow]

... but it has long been a laughing stock ...

It was always a laughing stock in terms of natural philosophy/science; racism doesn't play by those rules. I'm old enough to remember when the Sicilians on the The Hill (a St. Louis neighborhood) weren't considered white by the Lombardians/Tuscans.

It's quite possible for people to be using standards they don't explicitly articulate.

 

[JazzyFresh]

So Biden is literally releasing Covid infected immigrants into our communities... He's responsible for the spread more than any single other person out there.

Democrats have absolutely no ground to stand on with their flat out idiocy and hypocrisy. How could you possibly be serious about covid, speeding hate like you do, while staying silent about this?

You're hypocrites. Sheep.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Seriously thought you hypocrites.

Covid was widespread among children and eventually spread to many employees. Hundreds of children contracted Covid in the overcrowded conditions. Adequate masks were not consistently provided to children, nor was their use consistently enforced," the whistleblowers, Arthur Pearlstein and Lauren Reinhold, said in a federal whistleblower complaint filed Wednesday

Whistleblowers: We were told to downplay Covid spread at kids shelter

At the Fort Bliss migrant shelter in Texas, "hundreds of children contracted Covid in the overcrowded conditions," whistleblowers said in a complaint filed Wednesday.

www.nbcnews.com

Just food for thought the next time you two faced hypocrites think about pointing your finger at others.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

It was always a laughing stock in terms of natural philosophy/science; racism doesn't play by those rules. I'm old enough to remember when the Sicilians on the The Hill (a St. Louis neighborhood) weren't considered white by the Lombardians/Tuscans.

It's quite possible for people to be using standards they don't explicitly articulate.

My father-in-law is 2nd generation American but ethnically Portuguese with olive skin that gets pretty dark in summer. He tells a story of being young in Texas on a work project where they slept on site and he was forced to bunk with the Spanish speaking Mexican laborers despite not knowing a word of Spanish simply because of the color of his skin. I recognize that places are different and times do changes things, but I don’t get the logic of any of it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

This… doesn’t seem helpful.

Pretty obvious to me that one political party is actively trying to prolong this pandemic to hurt the economy, force restrictive mitigation efforts (and then whine about them), and hurt the Biden admin.

 

[Hax0rs]

Extra kudos for pretending being light-skinned would mean Dr. Khan would not be subject to racism. Are you really that ignorant? You never heard of, for example, the "one drop" standard?

Some say, "The darker the berry, the sweeter the juice"; I say "The darker the flesh, then the deeper the roots".

 

[Red]

I’ve been focused, and mentioned here several times, the Provincetown, Ma. outbreak in which 74% of the infected are among the fully vaccinated. Apparently the CDC has been focused on that same cluster….

CDC mask decision followed stunning findings from Cape Cod beach outbreak

The CDC's mask decision followed stunning findings from a Cape Cod beach outbreak. The viral load of vaccinated beachgoers changed what we know about the delta variant.

abcnews.go.com

Before Provincetown, health officials had been operating under the assumption that it was extraordinarily rare for a vaccinated person to become infected with the virus. And if they did, they probably wouldn't end up passing it on to others, such as children too young to qualify for the vaccine or people who were medically vulnerable.

The idea that vaccines halt transmission of the virus was largely behind the CDC's decision in May suggesting vaccinated people could safely go without their masks indoors and in crowds, even if others were unvaccinated.

But that assumption had been based on studies of earlier versions of the virus. Delta was known for its "hyper-transmissibility," or as one former White House adviser put it "COVID on steroids."

"What has changed is the virus," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert and Biden's chief medical adviser.

When a vaccinated person gets infected with delta -- called a "breakthrough infection" -- "the level of virus in their nasopharynx is about 1,000 times higher than with the alpha variant," Fauci said in an interview Wednesday with MSNBC.

All indications now are that the Provincetown outbreak investigation is among the pieces of new evidence behind the CDC's decision to ask Americans to once again put on their masks indoors, even if they are vaccinated.

….the biggest driver was new unpublished research on a person's "viral load" -- the amount of virus in a person's nasal passages -- being considerably high even after being vaccinated with a U.S.-approved vaccine.

"What we've learned … is that when we examine the rare or breakthrough infections and we look at the amount of virus in those people, it is pretty similar to the amount of virus in unvaccinated people," she said.

Mass. reports 1,207 new COVID-19 breakthrough cases in vaccinated individuals

A breakthrough case is when an individual tests positive for COVID-19 after they've been fully vaccinated against the disease.

www.wcvb.com

 

[Red]

The Washington Post obtained an internal document from the CDC, in which they acknowledge the Delta variant changes everything. This Washington Post article does not have a paywall….

The “unpublished data” mentioned is to be released in full Friday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/

The delta variant of the coronavirus appears to cause more severe illness than earlier variants and spreads as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal federal health document that argues officials must “acknowledge the war has changed.”

The document is an internal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention slide presentation, shared within the CDC and obtained by The Washington Post. It captures the struggle of the nation’s top public health agency to persuade the public to embrace vaccination and prevention measures, including mask-wearing, as cases surge across the United States and new research suggests vaccinated people can spread the virus.

The document strikes an urgent note, revealing the agency knows it must revamp its public messaging to emphasize vaccination as the best defense against a variant so contagious that it acts almost like a different novel virus, leaping from target to target more swiftly than Ebola or the common cold.

It cites a combination of recently obtained, still-unpublished data from outbreak investigations and outside studies showing that vaccinated individuals infected with delta may be able to transmit the virus as easily as those who are unvaccinated. Vaccinated people infected with delta have measurable viral loads similar to those who are unvaccinated and infected with the variant.

 

[Harambe]

Look! Unvaccinated are infecting the vaccinated