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My local markets are completely out of dry and canned goods. I'm sure glad my elderly parents who are more prone to catch the virus are going to have no means to buy food and survive. What a stupid world and people should be ashamed for the fear they are causing.
 
Kind of... I think people are using this as any excuse to make him out to be the bad guy here when just like the rest of the world he wasn't prepared. It's part of their psychotic Anti-Trump agenda. I wasn't a fan of Obama but I never even thought about blaming him when the swine flu killed 18,000 Americans having 50 million sick. It's downright political theater.

Do you believe the Obama response to SARS and the Trump response to Covid19 show a similar amount of competence? If not, why not talk about that difference?
 
Can any of you answer this btw? It's a an actual question I have.

I don't think any of us here are qualified to make an accurate estimate of the future number of infected. Thus, the citation of experts.

I've seen a lot of estimates and 150,000,000 is a huge number and bigger than most estimates off the top of my head. With that in mind, I really don't think we'll even get close to that number unless it's found that there is a huge number of unreported cases in all of the countries where this is showing up.
 
Do you believe the Obama response to SARS and the Trump response to Covid19 show a similar amount of competence? If not, why not talk about that difference?
I don't think any president is an expert here and I don't blame them for a virus that is world renowned.
 
Kind of... I think people are using this as any excuse to make him out to be the bad guy here when just like the rest of the world he wasn't prepared. It's part of their psychotic Anti-Trump agenda. I wasn't a fan of Obama but I never even thought about blaming him when the swine flu killed 18,000 Americans having 50 million sick. It's downright political theater.

We really don't even know what's going to happen yet, yet people are freaking out. Personally I know I will be fine as long as I can eat which this fear mongering leaves me a bit worried.

I think Anti-Trumpsters are rooting for this virus. I think they are getting a guilty pleasure out of this.

People using this as a reason to auto criticize Trump are ****ing pathetic human beings. You're better off avoiding them.
 
Welp, the U.S. is in the full shut-down scenario. State by state, large gatherings are banned. Schools, churches, theaters, events, etc. etc. all being closed. Elderly people, in particular, are told to avoid crowds and stay home as much as possible. Travel bans are now focused on blocking traffic from Europe.

Testing and treatment for the virus now appear to have shifted to the private sector, which is a good move since CDC showed itself to be slow and ineffective.

It looks like people are going to be able to be screened online and then able to receive a drive-through swab test in local Walmart parking lots. The new Roche test that just got fast tracked is apparently scalable and quicker at returning results compared to the CDC's test. So the system looks like it could scale in the next 1-2 weeks.

You can argue that this all should have happened 10-15 days ago, but otherwise, I think it's an impressive pivot considering how fast this is moving.
 
I'm not fearmongering. I have posted articles describing various modeling, and every model is only as good as the assumptions underlying the model. And it's the experts who have created these models, and possible outcomes, not Red, lol. It's like Dr. Fauci has said, repeatedly. It depends on how good we are at containment and mitigation. The fact that, at present, we only have about 160,000+ ventilators in this country could certainly affect mitigation, and worse case outcomes, and doctors may be in the position of having to decide who lives, and who dies. I sure hope not.

Since I have 4 major factors that put me at high risk, I'd have to have a death wish to be an anti-Trumper rooting for it. That's ludicrous. I gotta cross over some time, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not a tad.....scared.

But, I'm being proactive: I've been standing on my head, whistling "My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord". It's an old folk remedy from the days of the Black Death. Well, I'm not real sure what tune they whistled in the 14th century, and, to be honest, I can't whistle for ****, but I was told it was real good juju. I'm waiting for my iron mask to arrive in the mail. That I'm gonna wear in public, and carry a sword. Very conducive to social distancing. From me.
 
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Baek ri hyang is my wife's place to go since it has some Korean stuff that's hard to do at home like jajangmyeon, Jjambbong (korean-chinese food btw, yeah) and like Ugeoji Galbitang. CY noodle has gone off a cliff and my kids really like one more noodle house. Chickqueen but Utah really needs an upgrade in the Korean Friend Chicken genre. That and the place in AF are the only chicken places from here to vegas so I still get it sometimes.


If I see you I'm definitely saying that to your wife. JK
Welp. Ocean mart is nuts rn. I didnt make it to Chinatown.

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