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@Beer

"And how many have died? If basically none of them have died, should they even be in the hospital to begin with? I don't know. I do know that the entire economy cannot shut down for 30, 60, or 90 days. It is not an option. It will hurt far more than a bunch of deaths would"

I was just as struck by the extent of lung damage suffered by survivors, frankly, and all ages. Significant reduction in quality of life will be the case in severe cases that survive, based on a few studies I've read. I'm not sure what you mean by if someone didn't die, did they belong in a hospital? When I've suffered heart attacks, they took me to a hospital. I never thought of saying "never mind, fellas, I'm good".

They've been admitting people with life threatening conditions. Around here, anyway. Most hospitals do that. I think that's a function of hospitals, saving lives. Some survive, some don't. Once we reach overload, they will have to make the hard choices that America's doctors only know from war, and most here will not have had that experience of "this one we can try, this one no". But yeah, life threatening conditions, at least in a civilized society, usually qualifies a human being for admission to a hospital.

 

[Gameface]

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Alrighty then. Nothing more to discuss here. Wait...

just a question out of curiosity, be honest, how many books do you read per year? Are they mostly fiction or nonfiction. I’d appreciate it if you’d answer this as honestly as possible. I was talking to my wife about this earlier and want to test my thesis.

Your thesis is that people who disagree with you are uneducated ignorant yokels, amirght?

 

[Beer]

@Beer

"And how many have died? If basically none of them have died, should they even be in the hospital to begin with? I don't know. I do know that the entire economy cannot shut down for 30, 60, or 90 days. It is not an option. It will hurt far more than a bunch of deaths would"

I was just as struck by the extent of lung damage suffered by survivors, frankly, and all ages. Significant reduction in quality of life will be the case in severe cases that survive, based on a few studies I've read. I'm not sure what you mean by if someone didn't die, did they belong in a hospital? When I've suffered heart attacks, they took me to a hospital. I never thought of saying "never mind, fellas, I'm good".

They've been admitting people with life threatening conditions. Around here, anyway. Most hospitals do that. I think that's a function of hospitals, saving lives. Some survive, some don't. Once we reach overload, they will have to make the hard choices that America's doctors only know from war, and most here will not have had that experience of "this one we can try, this one no". But yeah, life threatening conditions, at least in a civilized society, usually qualifies a human being for admission to a hospital.

That’s what I’m saying. If literally no one in that age range is dying is it really a life threatening condition? For them at least.

 

[Zombie]

Your thesis is that people who disagree with you are uneducated ignorant yokels, amirght?

I think describing "being OK with death panels" as mere disagreement is uh, not wise.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Your thesis is that people who disagree with you are uneducated ignorant yokels, amirght?

no.

Reading helps others see from different perspectives. Ray Bradbury believed that reading fiction especially, helped others gain empathy.

There’s a large part of America that lacks empathy. I wonder if part of that could be related to american adults not reading enough books?

and I’m sorry if I disagree with killing Americans in attempts to restart the economy for trumps reelection. Most experts agree with me btw. But Thanks for the thoughtful and tolerant discussion. Not sure why my question @Beer elicited such a response from you? Weird post.

 

[Deleted member 365]

To those of you who think that we can restart the economy at the expense of our health, Here are some actual experts who know their stuff:









We can either listen to the experts or turn this into another tired red state Vs Libtard argument.

 

[fishonjazz]

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Alrighty then. Nothing more to discuss here. Wait...

just a question out of curiosity, be honest, how many books do you read per year? Are they mostly fiction or nonfiction. I’d appreciate it if you’d answer this as honestly as possible. I was talking to my wife about this earlier and want to test my thesis.

Come on man, you can't diagnose people based off how many non fiction books they read.
That's called stereotyping and is wrong

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[Deleted member 365]

Come on man, you can't diagnose people based off how many non fiction books they read.
That's called stereotyping and is wrong

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that’s why I asked my question. How was i stereotyping? I thought it was pretty clear In my posts that I was being inquisitive. Maybe reread posts 1261 and 1268?

 

[fishonjazz]

That’s what I’m saying. If literally no one in that age range is dying is it really a life threatening condition? For them at least.

I think you missed his point.
Dying or living doesn't determine whether something is a life threatening condition.


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[fishonjazz]

no.

Reading helps others see from different perspectives. Ray Bradbury believed that reading fiction especially, helped others gain empathy.

There’s a large part of America that lacks empathy. I wonder if part of that could be related to american adults not reading enough books?

and I’m sorry if I disagree with killing Americans in attempts to restart the economy for trumps reelection. Most experts agree with me btw. But Thanks for the thoughtful and tolerant discussion. Not sure why my question @Beer elicited such a response from you? Weird post.

I watched this movie tonight with my wife and daughter called Onward. We both (me and the wife) got tears in our eyes and felt plenty of empathy.
I don't read any non fiction books. Ever. I still have tons of empathy. I have logic too and an ability to suppress my emotions at times and think past those emotions to see a better outcome. Doesn't make anyone unfeeling or immoral or evil or anything.

Try being more compassionate for people who are different politically that you otherwise you start to look hypocritical.

I appreciate much of what you have to say. But your soapbox is too high and your self awareness could use some work in my humble opinion.

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[Beer]

To those of you who think that we can restart the economy at the expense of our health, Here are some actual experts who know their stuff:









We can either listen to the experts or turn this into another tired red state Vs Libtard argument.

I’m saying he is an expert in one vertical and maybe, extremely likely, he doesn’t understand the ramifications on the other parts of the equation here.

I’m most certainly not a conservative but I don’t consider myself a liberal either. I’m not making this a right vs left issue.

 

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