Coronavirus

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I read this...https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017002907/u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated

BRAUN: Heads up! It's now a pandemic of the unvaccinated

Don’t break out the champagne just yet.

torontosun.com

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the United States now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been and an indication that daily deaths — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the shots.

apnews.com

99% of the new deaths are in unvaccinated. Even if vaccine does not fully protect against new variant it is still highly efficacious against making your fatally ill.

Yes, and my concern is we do not know how many breakthrough cases exist, because we only find them out once they are hospitalized. We are not doing enough testing to really know what the numbers are. My concern is with so-called Long Haul Covid, and it’s debilitating, and long lasting symptoms. I’m fully vaccinated. If I contract asymptomatic Covid, or a very mild case, is Long Haul still a possibility? I’ve heard enough, in very recent days and weeks, to return to masks when indoors. No problem hanging with vaccinated family and friends, but will also avoid very crowded venues outdoors for the foreseeable future…..

I found this informative, broadcast Sunday morning, and a little encouraging. I notice he advocated using N95 masks when possible. I thought it would be a good idea to have a supply of these last year, anticipating this past Winter might be bad. At the time, took 3 months before my order of 20 N95 masks arrived, but they are readily available now. They need to be fitted to one’s face to be best effective. But, anyway, this seemed informative, but I’m not a doctor, I’m in the dark, but trying to keep up….

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yes, and my concern is we do not know how many breakthrough cases exist, because we only find them out once they are hospitalized. We are not doing enough testing to really know what the numbers are. My concern is with so-called Long Haul Covid, and it’s debilitating, and long lasting symptoms. I’m fully vaccinated. If I contract asymptomatic Covid, or a very mild case, is Long Haul still a possibility? I’ve heard enough, in very recent days and weeks, to return to masks when indoors. No problem hanging with vaccinated family and friends, but will also avoid very crowded venues outdoors for the foreseeable future…..

I had covid last November. My smell and taste haven’t returned to normal and we’re already almost to August.

 

[Red]

Why is Israel so different from other countries in this regard?

I posted this in one of the other threads. Began seeing suggestions within Israeli press pointing to this awhile ago, not months, weeks ago I guess, and began to wonder why such a difference. Then, I see things like the news out of Provincetown regarding 69% of Delta Covid infections reported are among the vaccinated. Anyway….

Israel says Pfizer vaccine efficacy in preventing infection drops to 39%

Health Ministry report shows vaccine's efficacy is also down when it comes to preventing serious illness, 91%, and hospitalizations, 88%; recently 5,770 fully vaccinated people were diagnosed with COVID, 495 were hospitalized, 123 died

www.ynetnews.com

 

[Red]

I had covid last November. My smell and taste haven’t returned to normal and we’re already almost to August.

Not uncommon, and that sucks!

 

[Deleted member 365]

Not uncommon, and that sucks!

Yes it does. I’d hate to get it again all because someone watches too much Fox News. Those people are the ones who should be stuck at home, not people like me. That’s why I support vaccine mandates. And I had a “mild” case!

 

[Hax0rs]

If someone decides not to get the vaccine and infects one of my kids, do I get to sue them in the same way as if they were careless in carrying around harmful chemicals?


This is a lie. You may not know it, but it is a lie nonetheless.

You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won't compensate you for damages either

Companies like Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from legal liability under the PREP Act if something unintentionally goes wrong with their Covid vaccines.

www.cnbc.com

You may not think up to $50K a year is insufficient, but it is certainly more than dung.

The government has created a way for people to recover some damages should something go wrong following immunization.

In addition to the legal immunity, the PREP Act established the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), which provides benefits to eligible individuals who suffer serious injury from one of the protected companies.

The little-known government program has been around for a decade, and it is managed by an agency under HHS. This fund typically only deals with vaccines you probably would never get, like the H1N1 and anthrax vaccines.

If a case for compensation through the CICP is successful, the program provides up to $50,000 per year in unreimbursed lost wages and out-of-pocket medical expenses. It won’t cover legal fees or anything to compensate for pain and suffering.

It is also capped at the death benefit of $370,376, which is the most a surviving family member receives in the event that a Covid vaccine proves to be fatal.

Do you get to sue someone if they give your daughter the flu, I mean I guess you could try.

You MAY be compensated for lost wages and out of pocket medical expenses...thats it. Its also capped at 370,000, what do you do if you happen to get that money and it runs out?

Your so disingenuous, to act like that 50k is there for anyone who has a problem with the vaccine.

 

[Hax0rs]

Yes it does. I’d hate to get it again all because someone watches too much Fox News. Those people are the ones who should be stuck at home, not people like me. That’s why I support vaccine mandates. And I had a “mild” case!

If they force vaccines, they need to force people to lose weight too. Its the fat asses that are incubators for this virus, government mandate weight loss.

 

[fishonjazz]

If they force vaccines, they need to force people to lose weight too. Its the fat asses that are incubators for this virus, government mandate weight loss.

Apples to oranges.
Vaccine cost me nothing and took 2 seconds.


Losing weight is much harder. I would like there to be more incentives and pushes for better health for the people of our country though.

If there ever is a simple and free way to lose weight (like a shot in the arm) and make us healthier then I think mandates would be a good idea.

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[One Brow]

Do you get to sue someone if they give your daughter the flu, I mean I guess you could try.

That would certainly encourage vaccinations, if it were feasible.

You MAY be compensated for lost wages and out of pocket medical expenses...thats it. Its also capped at 370,000, what do you do if you happen to get that money and it runs out?

What are you getting that you can't live off of that, combined with disability checks, etc.?

At any rate, your comment was patently false, which was my point.

Your so disingenuous, to act like that 50k is there for anyone who has a problem with the vaccine.

Does "anyone who has a problem" need 50K, or are there some problems so minor they don't need to be compensated.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Why is Israel so different from other countries in this regard?

dude .. they're being used as a good place to study because they got their vaccine program out so quickly and early ... ???

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Apples to oranges.
Vaccine cost me nothing and took 2 seconds.


Losing weight is much harder. I would like there to be more incentives and pushes for better health for the people of our country though.

If there ever is a simple and free way to lose weight (like a shot in the arm) and make us healthier then I think mandates would be a good idea.

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To play devils advocate the issue of treating vaccinated or unvaccinated people differently is a very very slippery slope though. There are so many choices people make with regards to their health to either look after themselves or not and therefore have their immune systems depressed or boosted

 

[bigb]

I guess, if you take his statement literally. But we all know where Bronco stands politically. It’s hard not to see that guide his opinion on vaccines and vaccine mandates over genuine confusion over HIPAA. Especially since this information is fairly easy to look up.

As an administrator in education, I have some understanding of HIPAA and other policies which protect privacy. While I don’t blame anyone for genuinely getting confused in the myriad of privacy policies, this one about vaccines violating HIPAA is pretty inexcusable. Like this stupid conspiracy began months ago by right wing figures like MTG and has also been debunked months ago as well.

People really need to seek better sources of information and check and then recheck the information. Not just accept it blindly because a relative told them or because it confirms their conservative political bias, as I believe is what happened here.

First, I’m not Bronco. I don’t like anything Bronco related. But whatevs. And please, tell me where I stand politically. Should be fun.


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