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Douchebag K said:
anyone purchasing Ivermectin prepared as a de-wormer for horses and taking it is an absolute idiot. I am however in favour of a doctor being able to prescribe it as they see fit with their patients. And the villification of Ivermectin as only a "horse de-wormer" was bizarre given that it's one of the most widely used medications in humans ever with an incredible safety profile, and it's developers awarded a nobel prize for such.
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What is it prescribed to humans for?
 
Douchebag K said:
given that it's one of the most widely used medications in humans ever.
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Does it go by a different name or something? I have never known anyone to use it.

Is it as widely used as things like Neosporin, aspirin, Tylenol, etc?

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fishonjazz said:
Does it go by a different name or something? I have never known anyone to use it.

Is it as widely used as things like Neosporin, aspirin, Tylenol, etc?

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it's mostly used as an anti parasitic, in the poorer parts of the world and has benefitted billions of people. It's incredibly cheap and safe

Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
Douchebag K said:
it's mostly used as an anti parasitic, in the poorer parts of the world and has benefitted billions of people. It's incredibly cheap and safe

Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Thanks. Not sure why I didn't deserve a response, but I appreciate the information none the less.
 
Douchebag K said:
it's mostly used as an anti parasitic, in the poorer parts of the world and has benefitted billions of people. It's incredibly cheap and safe

Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective - PMC

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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So it's a de-wormer. Seems like that's what it's been called all along. Horse = big dose, human = little dose. Is covid a worm? Not sure why it would be prescribed for that.
 
LogGrad98 said:
So it's a de-wormer. Seems like that's what it's been called all along. Horse = big dose, human = little dose. Is covid a worm? Not sure why it would be prescribed for that.
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your brain looks like there's a worm infesting it there ??

in the early days it had been shown to kill Covid in vitro so that was where it started, but hasn't specifically been clearly proven to be effective as a Covid treatment. It was just a little bizarre at least here that the government specifically banned Doctors from prescribing it for Covid patients. It's been used off label in a range of other conditions and has a very very good safety profile. The whole thing with the "horse wormer" references was people trying to make out like that was the primary use and wasn't used in humans. As usual it became a political point.
 
Douchebag K said:
anyone purchasing Ivermectin prepared as a de-wormer for horses and taking it is an absolute idiot.
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In the US, this was a big movement the FDA was fighting.

Douchebag K said:
I am however in favour of a doctor being able to prescribe it as they see fit with their patients.
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The only danger to that was for doctors prescribing ivermectin for covid-19, creating a supply shortage. How do you feel about doctors prescribing ivermectin for covid-19?

Douchebag K said:
And the villification of Ivermectin as only a "horse de-wormer" was bizarre ...
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Not in the US, here most of the sales were of the livestock variety.
 
One Brow said:
IIRC, this as at concentrations that would go beyond human toleration. Alcohol kills the virus in vitro, we don't say beer treats covid-19
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uhh i did say that's where it started, i'm sure many things kill Covid in vitro. If you can find where i vouched for the quantum leap between that and approving it specifically please go ahead and show me.

However due to it's safety profile and widespread global use in the billions of doses I really don't care if a doctor prescribed it off label, that's between a doctor and their patient. I think the shortage thing is ridiculous. Ivermectin is so widely used across the globe and is so cheap to produce i don't think that would have happened.

The authorities just were caught out misrepresenting something well intentioned or not.
 
Douchebag K said:
However due to it's safety profile and widespread global use in the billions of doses I really don't care if a doctor prescribed it off label, that's between a doctor and their patient. I think the shortage thing is ridiculous. Ivermectin is so widely used across the globe and is so cheap to produce i don't think that would have happened.
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Here in the US, there was a shortage if the livestock formulation.

Douchebag K said:
The authorities just were caught out misrepresenting something well intentioned or not.
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The findings of the trial was that the tweets were medical advice, and not in the FDAs purview.
 
Annnnnnnddddd despite Douche striking out once again, he’ll continue posting with his head in the sand.

His credo seems to be: “Never let a bad poorly informed opinion ever be affected by facts.”
 
The Thriller said:
Annnnnnnddddd despite Douche striking out once again, he’ll continue posting with his head in the sand.

His credo seems to be: “Never let a bad poorly informed opinion ever be affected by facts.”
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Retracted
 
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LogGrad98 said:
Oh he was talking about douchebag. I missed that part. I retract my statement. I'm just so used to everyone feeding the known trolls here all the time.
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It’s true, there are a lot of trolls on this site. I try to not feed them. Block and move on with life.
 
The next pandemic?

nypost.com

Bird flu pandemic could be ‘100 times worse’ than COVID, scientists warn

A bird flu pandemic with the potential to be “100 times worse than COVID” may be on the horizon after a rare human case was discovered in Texas, experts have warned. The H5N1 avian flu has spread r…
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“The H5N1 avian flu has spread rapidly since a new strain was detected in 2020, affecting wild birds in every state, as well as in commercial poultry and backyard flocks.

But it has now even been detected in mammals, with cattle herds across four states becoming infected, and on Monday, federal health officials announced that a dairy worker in Texas caught the virus.

“This virus [has been] on the top of the pandemic list for many, many years and probably decades,” Dr. Suresh Kuchipudi, a bird flu researcher from Pittsburgh, said at a recent panel discussing the issue, according to the Daily Mail.

“And now we’re getting dangerously close to this virus potentially causing a pandemic.”

He noted that the H5N1 virus has already been detected in species throughout the world and “has shown the ability to infect a range of mammalian hosts, including humans.”

“So therefore, in my view, I think this is a virus that has the greatest pandemic threat [that is] playing out in plain sight and globally present,” Kuchipudi said.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BRZxwL5y3I&t=9s&pp=2AEJkAIB
 
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