Coronavirus

[Bucknutz]

Mandatory vaccination is a good thing folks. Vaccines are good. Let’s just clear that up. Vaccines help prevent illness/lower the severity of the illness. The right’s endorsement of conspiracy and anti-vax nonsense just goes to show how radical they’ve become and how much they’ve embraced this fantasyland where Trump didn’t suck, Trump won In 2020, and Trump is being persecuted for not good reason in 2024.

Strawman arguement…2 for 2 in your posts. You can’t even answer the basic questions.

Easy question for you to answer:
What could a democrat do differently to not to lose 9.4 millions jobs during the pandemic?

I laid out what you wanted to do, which again is what the democrats wanted to do. Shut down states for an excessive amount of time, force vaccines, not shut down travel from china, silence opinions and then do everything you tell American citizens not to do.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Accurate description. You’re not even close to being moderate.

When did anyone say to stick a flashlight up their ***?


Again when did anyone say to take horse dewormer?


Again, you not addressing the question. Just going back to your standard rebuttal talking points.

Hahahaaha oooohkay. I’m very radical. It’s funny because the leftists on here call me conservative. Hahaha this conversation is going nowhere.

Folks, we desperately need better conservative voices on this website. It’s gotten bad. They all have their heads so far up Trump’s ***. Tribalism is more important than anything else.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Strawman arguement…2 for 2 in your posts. You can’t even answer the basic questions.

Easy question for you to answer:
What could a democrat do differently to not to lose 9.4 millions jobs during the pandemic?

I laid out what you wanted to do, which again is what the democrats wanted to do. Shut down states for an excessive amount of time, force vaccines, not shut down travel from china, silence opinions and then do everything you tell American citizens not to do.

I don’t think a Democrat would’ve downplayed the virus for weeks and then suddenly tell Americans in Europe that all travel between the two continents would be cut off. And then once the chaos erupted, go back on that.

Trump downplayed and lied about the virus the entire time he was president because:

A) he’s stupid. Cabinet members even referred to him as a “****ing moron.”
B) he’s a narcissist that could only care about his own reelection. So that’s why he promoted quack cures like Hydroxy, flashlights, disinfectant, and horse dewormer.
C) he never could take responsibility. When times got tough, whether it be social justice issues or a pandemic, he completely faltered. We saw what he did with his first crisis, Maria. He shot paper towels at people. He makes problems worse.

The proof is in the pudding. He makes problems worse. He’s completely incapable of empathy, is too mentally handicapped to work out problems, and his personality isn’t to bring people together. He made the George Floyd death worse. He wanted to start a race war.

 

[Bucknutz]

Hahahaaha oooohkay. I’m very radical. Hahaha this conversation is going nowhere.

Folks, we desperately need better conservative voices on this website. It’s gotten bad. They all have their heads so far up Trump’s ***. Tribalism is more important than anything else.

3rd straight post.

Just go complain that you need other voices on this website. Just so you can call them Maga, White Christian Nationalists, Trolls, Tribal and then complain more. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Please let me know when you can actually have a conversation about things you bring up and post about.

 

[Deleted member 365]

3rd straight post.

Just go complain that you need other voices on this website. Just so you can call them Maga, White Christian Nationalists, Trolls, Tribal and then complain more. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Please let me know when you can actually have a conversation about things you bring up and post about.

Sounds good!

Thanks for the intellectually stimulating posts tonight.

Your favorite radical,

Thrill (if you want to actually have a conversation with someone, don’t lead off with insults, like calling them “radical extremists.” Don’t bitch at me like you were serious about having a conversation tonight. Grow up)

 

[fishonjazz]

What would a Democrat have done differently to not have the decrease of 9.4 million jobs?
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What could a democrat have done differently to improve the development speed of the Covid vax? Remember they were telling the country to not trust it because of Trump.

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What could a democrat have done differently to force right leaning governors to open there states faster to get people back to work? Or was that the left leaning governors who kept things shut longer?
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What could a democrat have done differently to help businesses that were shut down to pay employees and not let them go on unemployment?

What could a democrat have done differently to help with unemployment claims? Remember Obamacare rollout…not a good one.

Remember you, a very far left radical, wanted to keep things shut down, force vaccines on everyone, make the unvaccinated lose their jobs and more, Keep kids out of schools longer, shut down the voices of anyone who spoke up, shamed people for bringing up the lab leak. Bitched about ppp and other business handouts.

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Your views and opinions would have magnified the problem. Yet here you are bitching that only Trump could have done this.

I agree with all this. I never blamed trump for much of anything covid related. There was no right way to handle it. Close stuff and everyone is going broke and can't pay bills and getting depressed and scared and suicidal, and anxious and tense and everyone thinks you should have done it differently.


Leave stuff open and hospitals are getting too full and people are dying (people are dying in the other scenario as well just not in similar pace or fashion) and every one thinks you should have done it differently.

In regards to covid I was mostly only critical for trumps deceit and stupid things he said and kind of being inflammatory (he is always that at all times. It's who he is and always has been). But as far as what he actually did and didn't do i don't really think even the best president of all time could have done things anywhere close to perfect

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[Bucknutz]

I don’t think a Democrat would’ve downplayed the virus for weeks and then suddenly tell Americans in Europe that all travel between the two continents would be cut off. And then once the chaos erupted, go back on that.

Trump downplayed and lied about the virus the entire time he was president because:

A) he’s stupid. Cabinet members even referred to him as a “****ing moron.”
B) he’s a narcissist that could only care about his own reelection. So that’s why he promoted quack cures like Hydroxy, flashlights, disinfectant, and horse dewormer.
C) he never could take responsibility. When times got tough, whether it be social justice issues or a pandemic, he completely faltered. We saw what he did with his first crisis, Maria. He shot paper towels at people. He makes problems worse.

The proof is in the pudding. He makes problems worse. He’s completely incapable of empathy, is too mentally handicapped to work out problems, and his personality isn’t to bring people together. He made the George Floyd death worse. He wanted to start a race war.

So again for the 3rd time, what could a democrat do to not lose 9.4 millions jobs during covid?

 

[Deleted member 365]

So again for the 3rd time, what could a democrat do to not lose 9.4 millions jobs during covid?

I’ve already explained that in previous posts.

Grow up

 

[Deleted member 365]

I agree with all this. I never blamed trump for much of anything covid related. There was no right way to handle it. Close stuff and everyone is going broke and can't pay bills and getting depressed and scared and suicidal, and anxious and tense and everyone thinks you should have done it differently.


Leave stuff open and hospitals are getting too full and people are dying (people are dying in the other scenario as well just not in similar pace or fashion) and every one thinks you should have done it differently.

In regards to covid I was mostly only critical for trumps deceit and stupid things he said and kind of being inflammatory (he is always that at all times. It's who he is and always has been). But as far as what he actually did and didn't do i don't really think even the best president of all time could have done things.

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Completely disagree.

Trump downplayed the virus, made it tribal, and made the social justice issues that summer worse. Had he used the pandemic as a way to unify people, jobs would’ve been saved, as many lives wouldn’t have been lost, and the pandemic wouldn’t have been as damaging. We had so much more excess death and loss of prosperity because Trump made covid a dick measuring issue because all he could focus on was his own reelection.

Imagine the difference that could’ve been made had he been honest and upfront from the beginning, got serious about testing and tracing, told his supporters the importance of masking and vaccinations. Other social safety nets could’ve been expanded. Instead he threw science out the window and made all the problems our country faces that year worse. He was literally the worst person on the planet who could’ve been placed in that position.

We really need to stop giving Trump a pass. Is Hoover given a pass for the Great Depression? LBJ for civil rights disruptions or Vietnam? Carter for Nixon running the economy hot and causing inflation? Bush for 9/11, Katrina, Iraqi war? Hillary was certainly never given a pass for Benghazi. Why is Trump given a pass for that entire year?

 

[Deleted member 365]

it’s ironic that trumpers want to give Trump a pass for covid but want to throw all of the effects of the pandemic on Biden. Inflation, supply chain issues, etc are all Biden’s fault. This is where the asymmetrical warfare between the two parties (one a party of adolescent children who scream nonstop about bias and the other the adults in the room acting responsibly) is most apparent.

 

[Bucknutz]

I agree with all this. I never blamed trump for much of anything covid related. There was no right way to handle it. Close stuff and everyone is going broke and can't pay bills and getting depressed and scared and suicidal, and anxious and tense and everyone thinks you should have done it differently.


Leave stuff open and hospitals are getting too full and people are dying (people are dying in the other scenario as well just not in similar pace or fashion) and every one thinks you should have done it differently.

In regards to covid I was mostly only critical for trumps deceit and stupid things he said and kind of being inflammatory (he is always that at all times. It's who he is and always has been). But as far as what he actually did and didn't do i don't really think even the best president of all time could have done things.

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I know you didnt. When I came back to posting on this site, I read your posts and everyone’s else’s. I remember you were worried about getting fired for using sick days at the beginning of Covid. No one knew how to navigate it properly. I had a little hope that Florida would not shut down, so my business wouldn’t be affected; at the same time I had family members upset with me because they thought I should be locked up at my house and keep everyone safe.

Everyone was looking out for themselves or their family which I can respect.

Leadership is lonely. Decisions will always be criticized, especially with Presidents.

 

[fishonjazz]

Completely agree.

Trump downplayed the virus, made it tribal, and made the social justice issues that summer worse. Had he used the pandemic as a way to unify people, jobs would’ve been saved, as many lives wouldn’t have been lost, and the pandemic wouldn’t have been as damaging. We had so much more excess death and loss of prosperity because Trump made covid a dick measuring issue because all he could focus on was his own reelection.

Ya trump sucked at dealing with an unprecedented pandemic situation.

We all agree. Bucknutz agrees.

His point, and I agree with it, is that anyone else would have sucked at handling it as well. They wouldn't have been all over TV blatantly sucking at it like trump did and always will do..... But the results of whatever the "good" president did would have been either A. A great depression. Or B. Lots of deaths and full hospitals. Or C. Somewhere in the middle with a little bit of both.

What trumps administration did in regards to covid is one of those 3 things as well.

There is no plan D. Everyone stays healthy and no one dies and no one's finances go to hell and nothing gets shutdown etc etc.

I mean I know you were team shut everything down, everyone wear masks, everyone maintain social distancing, etc. but that plan results in lots of deaths too. Some still die from the virus anyway and a whole bunch more die from depression, suffer extreme mental health issues, go into extreme debt and poverty, etc when the number of deaths, though high and meaningful, were a very small percentile and lots of people were getting sick and not feeling a thing.

It was a tricky, messy, ***********. Trump behaved like trump always behaves. Extremely poorly. He was inexperienced, incompetent, unrepentant, dishonest, inflammatory.... He was all things that make him trump. But the situation was ****ed regardless.

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