Court: California gay marriage ban is unconstitutional

[Darkwing Duck]

Aw, so if you think religion is wrong, then you must be right and all religion is wrong.

And people get hateful at me for thinking I am right...

I think monotheism is one of the worst inventions of mankind. By definition it refutes any thinking that anyone who does not follow that specific deity, and the codes that the followers of said deity created. Moral codes are not exclusive to monotheism, nor were they invented by creators of monotheism. They are also not inherently better, since all moral code is relative. All innovations and societal advances considered positive are not independent of monotheism and could have occurred without monotheism, and the restrictiveness that the nature of that type of religion provides.

But my thoughts of religion aren't really important when discussing a civil rights manner. I prefer to stick to relevant arguments.

 

[craig2112]

You have to know your audience.
When you go right at people with "homosexuality destroys nations", you tend to get people on the defensive and offensive.
You also have to know that this has been hashed, and rehashed so many times there will not really be anything useful to come from it.
There is no way you will change Numberica's mind about... well, anything. There is no way you can change the mind of GVC, especially on this issue.
But, if you approach your stance on this issue in a less straightforward and pushy way, you would be able to have a decent discussion with them and others... if that's what you want.

This is why I don't agree with your approach, but that's just me.

I'm not sure you really wanted a discussion as much as an I'm right, no I'm right ping pong match.

By the way, it's more effective to take it all back to the individual.
Next time maybe try it this way.

"Homosexuality destroys individuals, which destroy families, which destroys nations, which destroys the world."

Something like that might get you the fight you are looking for escalated to level 10, instead of the 5 it started at.

I did'nt want anything. Just wanted to say what I said, every bit of it. I knew people would jump on me. It's fine.
I'm not looking for a discussion. I am not trying to convert anyone.

It's my way. I say things straight up and I say it strongly. I don't walk around trying not to offend anyone. I don't have time for that.

I cannot offend anyone. They can only decide to get offended and blame me for it.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I still dont get it! when is it okay to say gay and when not.
cus all it gets me is a warning.

 

[GVC]

There is no way you can change the mind of GVC, especially on this issue.

Sour grapes. It's not my fault you're a ****ing moron.

And, I change my mind when presented with good arguments. Craig has made assertions without providing any justification whatsoever. Why believe anything if you don't have a reason for doing so?

 

[GVC]

It's my way. I say things straight up and I say it strongly. I don't walk around trying not to offend anyone. I don't have time for that.

Saying something strongly doesn't make what you're saying right. I'm not offended in the least, only curious why you make such strong statements with absolutely no justification.

 

[craig2112]

Saying something strongly doesn't make what you're saying right. I'm not offended in the least, only curious why you make such strong statements with absolutely no justification.

I did'dnt say that that saying something strongly makes me right. i only said that it is the way I say things.
I have a lot of justification, but I don't feel like telling you or having to write it all out.

I know how these things go. You are trying to goad me into saying something that you can twist or badmouth. I won't fall for it.

 

[craig2112]

Sour grapes. It's not my fault you're a ****ing moron.

There goes Mr "Let's have a civil discussion of ideas"

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I eat Sour grapes. It's my moms fault I'm a blithering moran.

And, I change my mind when presented with good arguments. Craig has made assertions without providing any justification whatsoever. Why believe anything if you don't have a reason for doing so?

You brush with Sensodyne?
Never said I wanted to change your mind, just letting him know he wouldn't change yours.
I did mention if he approached it different he could have a decent conversation on the topic with you.

You think you are open to change your mind when presented with good arguments, the only problem is the only good arguments are yours.
He didn't say he had no reason, just stated what he wanted to state and later said he didn't feel like telling you why.
Read much?


There, feel better. You wanted name calling right? Oh, and I fixed your quote.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I have a lot of justification, but I don't feel like telling you

Something a parent says to a child which builds resentment in the child and the parent thinks it's a good technique.

 

[GVC]

You think you are open to change your mind when presented with good arguments, the only problem is the only good arguments are yours.

Hardly. Can you provide a single example of me refusing to concede a point when presented with an argument that clearly refuted an argument I made?

 

[Bronco70]

I still dont get it! when is it okay to say gay and when not.
cus all it gets me is a warning.

Discussing it is okay. Using it in a defamatory manner is not okay. I would run this through google translate into armenian so you could understand, but I'm just too lazy.

 

[GVC]

There, feel better. You wanted name calling right?

You're the one who decided to start talking ****. I was all for being civil with you, but apparently you're incapable of doing the same.