Court: California gay marriage ban is unconstitutional
- Thread starter Gameface
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I will go ahead and tell you one reason why I oppose the gay agenda (yes, I know people will hate me for this...obviously, I dont care)
It doesn stop at gay marriage. Once gay marriage is in place, then it is forced on everyone. It is mandated to be taught in schools (already happens in CA), then churches are forced to perform gay marriages (already being tried in some places), and then they go after Mormon temples, trying to get them shut down when the church says no to performing gay marriages.
That's just a taste. There is much more.
It doesn stop at gay marriage. Once gay marriage is in place, then it is forced on everyone. It is mandated to be taught in schools (already happens in CA), then churches are forced to perform gay marriages (already being tried in some places), and then they go after Mormon temples, trying to get them shut down when the church says no to performing gay marriages.
That's just a taste. There is much more.
So I am GVC's daddy now?
Darkwing Duck
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Point 1 is actually a legitimate point. Shouldn't really be an issue in the schools, though. I've read that groups want to force teaching that it's okay, but I'm not down with that.
Point 2 won't happen. Can't force a religious entity to perform ceremonies. Need to show me initiatives where it's being tried.
Point 3 won't happen for the same reasons.
2 and 3 are being done. They have already tried to force the army chaplains to perform gay marriages.
Gay leaders have said on many occasions that forcing complete acceptance is exactly what they want. I don't have the links, but they have already pressured churches to perform ceremonies and I did see a gay leader state that they want to force Mormon temples to also.
Just what I have seen and read.
GVC
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2. No one, to my knowledge, has "forced" army chaplains to perform same-sex marriages. Back in September, the Pentagon made the decision to "permit" military Chaplains to perform same-sex marriages if such marriages are legal in the states they are being performed AND if those ceremonies are in line with the chaplains personal and religious beliefs. In other words, chaplains are no longer forced not to perform same-sex marriages, but can choose not to if they disagree with them.
3. Is not happening. Will not happen. Can you provide a single example of a church being forced by the governemnt to perform a religious ceremony against their will?
And, none of these false concerns address your initial contention that same-sex marriages destroy nations. meh.
That's the problem right there. What I think would "clearly refute" an argument you have made, you would say did not. It just gets to a point where it's all semantics as to an argument. I'm not saying I'm any different, I haven't changed my tune due to anything you have said. Just stating fact. Embrace it.
This reminds me of the marijuana thread. Most people are in favor for progress and reform, but there are a couple of religiously motivated moral police who want to halt social progress.