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Culture of winning or tank?

Win or tank?

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This team now reminds me of that Portland trailblazers team from 1998 to 2000. How that roster puts together a winning record is beyond me, let alone making multiple trips to the conference final. But that may be what we are seeing here with this Jazz team.
 
I’m in both camps tbh.

I want to see this team win as many games as they can and start building success - but I want to see them so it with the players that are going to be in Utah long term.

Jazz should look to play heavy minutes to their most important guys and build around Lauri, JC, Sexton, Vando, Kessler, Fontecchio and Agbaji.

They should probably keep Beasley, Olynyk, THT and NAW - at least this year and next - depending on the cost of those guys. If they get offered a good-to-great asset for any of them, I’d consider making a deal.

They should ABSOLUTELY be trying to trade Conley, Gay, Bolmaro and Azibuike. Like I said - Beasley, Olynyk, THT and NAW should all be on the trade block as well - but with less urgency.

If they execute a key trade or two AND keep winning - that’s the best case scenario imo.
 
Coach Ellis said:
I’m in both camps tbh.

I want to see this team win as many games as they can and start building success - but I want to see them so it with the players that are going to be in Utah long term.

Jazz should look to play heavy minutes to their most important guys and build around Lauri, JC, Sexton, Vando, Kessler, Fontecchio and Agbaji.

They should probably keep Beasley, Olynyk, THT and NAW - at least this year and next - depending on the cost of those guys. If they get offered a good-to-great asset for any of them, I’d consider making a deal.

They should ABSOLUTELY be trying to trade Conley, Gay, Bolmaro and Azibuike. Like I said - Beasley, Olynyk, THT and NAW should all be on the trade block as well - but with less urgency.

If they execute a key trade or two AND keep winning - that’s the best case scenario imo.
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Olynyk is a classic case of a guy who you extend if the fit is right. He won't be expensive, he doesn't need to start, you can play him with almost anyone, and he's generally more useful for the Jazz as a player than as a trade piece.

I think Kelly still has 3-4 good years left since his game is not based on athleticism.

As for the other guys... I'm not sure Fontecchio is a rotation player in the NBA. He'll be 27 this season, so he pretty much is who he is at this point. Not getting any younger or quicker. To me he's a tweener who's too slow to guard 3's and lacks size and athleticism to guard 4's. He's certainly no foundational piece.

Agbaji may have a future as a 7th guy on a good team, but he doesn't move the needle for me.
 
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Tremendous Upside said:
Olynyk is a classic case of a guy who you extend if the fit is right. He won't be expensive, he doesn't need to start, you can play him with almost anyone, and he's generally more useful for the Jazz as a player than as a trade piece.

I think Kelly still has 3-4 good years left since his game is not based on athleticism.

As for the other guys... I'm not sure Fontecchio is a rotation player in the NBA. He'll be 27 this season, so he pretty much is who he is at this point. Not getting any younger or quicker. To me he's a tweener who's too slow to guard 3's and lacks size and athleticism to guard 4's. He's certainly no foundational piece.

Agbaji may have a future as a 7th guy on a good team, but he doesn't move the needle for me.
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I included Fontecchio and Agbaji in that group to build around because of their contracts - not because I think they’re foundational. It’s clear the Jazz like them and want to see what they bring to the table, and that they don’t hold much trade value at the moment. Better to see what they can do than to move onto someone else. If they can get value for any of those other guys, I’d say you have to consider it. Maybe even put NAW and THT in that category as well - but they’re going to cost more than Fontecchio and Agbaji.
 
Coach Ellis said:
I’m in both camps tbh.

I want to see this team win as many games as they can and start building success - but I want to see them so it with the players that are going to be in Utah long term.

Jazz should look to play heavy minutes to their most important guys and build around Lauri, JC, Sexton, Vando, Kessler, Fontecchio and Agbaji.

They should probably keep Beasley, Olynyk, THT and NAW - at least this year and next - depending on the cost of those guys. If they get offered a good-to-great asset for any of them, I’d consider making a deal.

They should ABSOLUTELY be trying to trade Conley, Gay, Bolmaro and Azibuike. Like I said - Beasley, Olynyk, THT and NAW should all be on the trade block as well - but with less urgency.

If they execute a key trade or two AND keep winning - that’s the best case scenario imo.
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Good post. I like this approach as well only thing I would add is to include one of Clarkson or Beasley to the tradeable list to sweeten the deal.

I really wanna see Sexton start every game this year and improve his playmaking ability.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Crazy that so far our defense is better than last year in terms of NBA rank and defensive rating. But it does make sense since our guys are hustling a lot more. Too bad Rudy never got to play with guys trying this hard on defense.
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This in spades. We let Rudy down too much in our ****** team building.
 
Jazz offense is generating 118 per 100. It's the same as last year

Lauri + Clarkson is +9.5 per 100 on the court together

And we are tanking? Hilarious
 
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