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Unless the Cavaliers make the finals or win a championship in the next three seasons I don't think Donovan resigns there. The NBA salary cap is going to make a huge leap when the new CBA comes into effect so he basically has to opt out because he'll be eligible for a much larger max contract.

The Clippers, Lakers, Nets, Knicks, and Heat will probably all have a max slot for him when he does opt out.
 
Unless the Cavaliers make the finals or win a championship in the next three seasons I don't think Donovan resigns there. The NBA salary cap is going to make a huge leap when the new CBA comes into effect so he basically has to opt out because he'll be eligible for a much larger max contract.

The Clippers, Lakers, Nets, Knicks, and Heat will probably all have a max slot for him when he does opt out.
I think they trade him before he can bolt. They have two years to change his mind - not three.
 
I think they trade him before he can bolt. They have two years to change his mind - not three.
I disagree unless they just aren't good or one of their core players gets injured. I think that they take advantage of their potential championship window. They have Garland/Mobley secured for the foreseeable future and their ability to add another player like Donovan is gone since they dumped all of their draft assets. I think they go for it over the next three years while they have their core 4 under contract, even if Allen/Donovan dip they can either rebuild around Mobley/Garland or sell those two off to rebuild their asset base like we just did.
 
I disagree unless they just aren't good or one of their core players gets injured. I think that they take advantage of their potential championship window. They have Garland/Mobley secured for the foreseeable future and their ability to add another player like Donovan is gone since they dumped all of their draft assets. I think they go for it over the next three years while they have their core 4 under contract, even if Allen/Donovan dip they can either rebuild around Mobley/Garland or sell those two off to rebuild their asset base like we just did.
Maybe. I just don’t think they’re going to get to the finals (much less win a championship) in the next two years.

I think by year three at the trade deadline, they’re going to be looking to recoup some of what they spent and trade him to one of his top 3 destinations before he can opt out and sign elsewhere.
 
Maybe. I just don’t think they’re going to get to the finals (much less win a championship) in the next two years.

I think by year three at the trade deadline, they’re going to be looking to recoup some of what they spent and trade him to one of his top 3 destinations before he can opt out and sign elsewhere.
I don't think so either but I think that they'll be committed to keeping him for the next three seasons at least.

It really will depend on how Garland/Mobley develop, if they become the best PG/Center in the league (which is possible) they'll certainly have a championship window.
 
I mean it does give the Jazz more runway to draft a project like Gobert or Giannis if you know you still have a boatload of picks in the chamber instead of going all in on a win now Trey Burke.

I feel like the Jazz are starting the rebuild from the point we were at after we cashed out all of the Williams assets, and we still have more to liquidate and redeem, and haven't yet used ANY of the picks.

You’re not wrong about the first part, and that’s just another reason why a 1-2 rebuild is so unlikely. Anyone who is buying into the 1-2 rebuild thing is a fool. Not just because it’s incredibly unlikely, but it’s the wrong way to go about things.

If you’re going to trade Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert with multiple years on their contract left you ought to commit to the rebuild 100% and be willing to be a ****** team for at least 3 years.
 
Unless the Cavaliers make the finals or win a championship in the next three seasons I don't think Donovan resigns there. The NBA salary cap is going to make a huge leap when the new CBA comes into effect so he basically has to opt out because he'll be eligible for a much larger max contract.

The Clippers, Lakers, Nets, Knicks, and Heat will probably all have a max slot for him when he does opt out.
That's the double whammy of the cap rising for the Cavs - first it makes it really hard to see him extending with Cleveland before 2025, when he will opt out of his last year. And then the jump is going to be sooooo huge that IMO it makes sacrificing the 10-15M or so he will give up by signing outside ot Cleveland much easier to stommach. IMO he's as good as gone in '25
 
You’re not wrong about the first part, and that’s just another reason why a 1-2 rebuild is so unlikely. Anyone who is buying into the 1-2 rebuild thing is a fool. Not just because it’s incredibly unlikely, but it’s the wrong way to go about things.

If you’re going to trade Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert with multiple years on their contract left you ought to commit to the rebuild 100% and be willing to be a ****** team for at least 3 years.
I have no idea why people think 1-2 year rebuild is likely. This is wishful thinking. First, you need to actually HIT on some players. And then, they actually need to develop into winning pieces. Very very VERY few players enter the league and immediately are winning you tons of games. You can hit on 2023 draft and 2024 draft and still be bad to mediocre in the 2024-2025 season. And that assumes you actually hit, which is not a given.
 
I have no idea why people think 1-2 year rebuild is likely. This is wishful thinking. First, you need to actually HIT on some players. And then, they actually need to develop into winning pieces. Very very VERY few players enter the league and immediately are winning you tons of games. You can hit on 2023 draft and 2024 draft and still be bad to mediocre in the 2024-2025 season. And that assumes you actually hit, which is not a given.
Yup. The Thunder drafted Durant/Westbrook and were still bad enough to land Harden in year 3. I think the best case scenario for us is that we start to find our groove just as other teams in the West like the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers, etc. are starting to fade because their core is aging.
 
What's interesting is that it's possible that Don and Rudy may not make an All Star game on their new teams. Are they even the second best player on each team? Garland and Mobley are likely going to both be better than Mitchell. KAT and Edwards may be better than Gobert.
 
What's interesting is that it's possible that Don and Rudy may not make an All Star game on their new teams. Are they even the second best player on each team? Garland and Mobley are likely going to both be better than Mitchell. KAT and Edwards may be better than Gobert.
I think there's a strong case that Garland and Mobley are better than Donovan. But it's safe to say that Gobert is the best player on the Timberwolves even though he'll be viewed as the third fiddle, he'll have the biggest impact on winning for them. While Donovan will probably be viewed as the Cavaliers best player but be their third most impactful player.
 
I have no idea why people think 1-2 year rebuild is likely. This is wishful thinking. First, you need to actually HIT on some players. And then, they actually need to develop into winning pieces. Very very VERY few players enter the league and immediately are winning you tons of games. You can hit on 2023 draft and 2024 draft and still be bad to mediocre in the 2024-2025 season. And that assumes you actually hit, which is not a given.

Exactly….even if you draft great prospects, they don’t often help you win a lot early and they’ll probably be surrounded by other developing players who also don’t help you win.

I’m sure DA could build a play in team in the next 1-2 years, but that’s not what I’m hoping for. We shouldn’t have traded Don and Rudy if we were going to shortchange a rebuild.
 
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