David Locke toasts Kanter on 1280

[NAOS]

this thread proves that Sexual Favors has taken the title of JAZZFANZ'S DUMBEST POSTER away from hotttnickkk.








*fyi, hotttnickkk held the record for longest tenure in JFC history

 

[Stoked]

Jazz management toyed with Kanter somehow...they claim they did all their best to make him happy but I didn't notice much support to his game when he was on the court....he never had a clear role on the team, they didn't exploit his offensive talent, they allowed Corbin to scapegoat him publicly....your teammates and fans don't respect you when your coach scapegoat you like that....where was the management support and defense?

Objectively Kanter has few reasons to be happy during his Jazz time, he was part of a rebuilding and tanking team for almost three seasons, he spent two seasons sleeping on the bench despite showing promising games, he didn't contribuite to win games and so on....he must blame himself first of all but the management isn't without guilts.

Locke speaks about trust and said the Jazz didn't trust in Enes attitude to pay him....the point is the Jazz didn't trust in Enes game first of all.

His frustration is understandable but there was no need to express it publicly like he did....he just gave extra reasons to his haters and he has been disrespectful with fans like me that supported him heavily.
Probably he has still bad blood against the Jazz management for the way they treated him during the first three seasons but he could keep it for himself....in spite of everything the Jazz indulged his wish to be traded despite getting almost nothing in return.

If his team mates didn't respect him it had more to do with kanter than anyone else. Probably his horrid D.
Some of his frustration is understandable but so what? Jazz tried to mold Kanter into what was best for them based on the team he was part of. If they didn't trust him but trusted all his team mates then that should tell you something. That something is that Kanter is about Kanter and not the team.

Good riddance and I look forward to all future games against him!

 

[Beer]

I'm sorry, but how did Burks have it tougher? I agree he had it really bad years 1-2, but his role was clearly defined in his third year, and he was relied upon. Enes was still being jerked around his entire third year, then benched for Marvin Williams.

Here is the game logs for 13-14 in case you,ve forgotten. There were games he only played twelve ****ing minutes. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01/gamelog/2014/

Looks like a genius move on Ty's part now doesn't it?

 

[b_line]

And b-line is one of those posters who always forms his opinion based on what the majority think. In other words, you bring very little to any discussion, son.

No, I just read a couple posts of yours, and they were at the same time as some from TBE. I thought you were agreeing with him. I think you are nuts about Kanter, but otherwise you are alright.

TBE is annoying as heck though.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Did you even read the post you submitted? I was actually asking a sincere question.

Yes I did, and yes it was. I just felt like replying to a post in your style. It was fun.

 

[Sexual Favors]

(Enes actual was handed the starting role ahead of marvin as well)

Your memory fails you. Marvin was injured, as was Trey, and Jeremy, and we had yet to pick up Diante, so we had Tinsley and JLIII at the point. Everyone got healthy around the same time, and instead of Corbin chalking up the rough start to a depleted roster and a young team, Enes loses his starting gig and is scapegoated for the poor start. Enes didn't start over Marvin. In preseason, Enes had Marvin starting over him. I remember, because I threw a fit.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Looks like a genius move on Ty's part now doesn't it?

Not really.

We're lucky we've done as much damage control as we have done. Very lucky to have kept Hayward who was ready to split. Very lucky to have kept Alec, and we should also count our blessings that Favors has the personality that he does.

Hayward was a matter of force. He had no choice.
Favors was shell shocked by his first trade. Good for us. He was also one of the better treated.
Alec was saved by the hiring of Quin.
Enes didn't have the third season Alec had, nor did he have as much to gain from the Quin signing, plus the addition of Trevor Booker, Steve Novak AND every Dleague Power Forward, in his contract year didn't help, especially when Gobert was emerging.

Corbin screwed us, but we allowed him to. Even if we hated Enes and were certain he didn't fit with us, we could have received more in return for him had the timing and relationship been different.

 

[framer]

Your memory fails you. Marvin was injured, as was Trey, and Jeremy, and we had yet to pick up Diante, so we had Tinsley and JLIII at the point. Everyone got healthy around the same time, and instead of Corbin chalking up the rough start to a depleted roster and a young team, Enes loses his starting gig and is scapegoated for the poor start. Enes didn't start over Marvin. In preseason, Enes had Marvin starting over him. I remember, because I threw a fit.

Unpossible. I have it on good authority that Trey Burke sucks worse than any point guard we have EVER had. Enes should have been better without him. . .

 

[Sexual Favors]

you've been studying that Sarah Palin dictionary, eh?

 

[fishonjazz]

Your memory fails you. Marvin was injured, as was Trey, and Jeremy, and we had yet to pick up Diante, so we had Tinsley and JLIII at the point. Everyone got healthy around the same time, and instead of Corbin chalking up the rough start to a depleted roster and a young team, Enes loses his starting gig and is scapegoated for the poor start. Enes didn't start over Marvin. In preseason, Enes had Marvin starting over him. I remember, because I threw a fit.

Even so.
Burks never started and played behind worse players than enes in his first three years and probably played less total minutes (even though he played behind crappier players....... I could be wrong about who played less minutes but I feel like it was Burks due to all the dnp's his first two years) than kanter.

I still say playing behind howard, bell, cj, richard jefferson, and to a lesser extent randy foye (a decent player at least) rather than sap, al, favs, and marv means burks got screwed by corbin worse.

Don't really matter though. Burks got screwed over his first 3 years.... never bitched..... seems to have a good relationship with his teammates..... likes the city and fans..... gave it his best effort during games...... and accepted a good reasonable contract extension.

Kanter got screwed over his first 3 years.... apparently bitched about stuff..... teammates seem to have not liked him.... didn't like the city, organisation, or fans.... didn't try his hardest during games.... and thought he was a max money dude.

Oh, and asked for a trade.
**** him

 

[framer]

Even so.
Burks never started and played behind worse players than enes in his first three years and probably played less total minutes (even though he played behind crappier players....... I could be wrong about who played less minutes but I feel like it was Burks due to all the dnp's his first two years) than kanter.

I still say playing behind howard, bell, cj, richard jefferson, and to a lesser extent randy foye (a decent player at least) rather than sap, al, favs, and marv means burks got screwed by corbin worse.

Don't really matter though. Burks got screwed over his first 3 years.... never bitched..... seems to have a good relationship with his teammates..... likes the city and fans..... gave it his best effort during games...... and accepted a good reasonable contract extension.

Kanter got screwed over his first 3 years.... apparently bitched about stuff..... teammates seem to have not liked him.... didn't like the city, organisation, or fans.... didn't try his hardest during games.... and thought he was a max money dude.

Oh, and asked for a trade.
**** him

A younger Randy Foye would look SOOOO good on this team right now. . .

 

[fishonjazz]

A younger Randy Foye would look SOOOO good on this team right now. . .

Ya, I could not really hate to on foye starting even though I still think burks was the better player at the time.
Foye was pretty good