Dennis Lindsey feels he owes Richard Jefferson a lot

[franklin]

" Even the most novice fan can see what we did. But, look, y’know, it’s not young guys come hell or high water. We have Richard Jefferson that we’re trying to recreate his career, and we owe him a lot towards his career and responsibility to continue it. Ty’s coached him well and been honest with him, so, Richard, I think, appreciates that.

We have Brandon Rush, who we’ve gone through a long rehab [with]. We’ve been very patient and diligent — we could have rushed him back, but we didn’t physically or mentally, and I think Brandon and (his agent Mark) Bartelstein appreciate that.

Same thing with Andris Biedrins."


https://1280thezone.com/index.php/a...ow_utah_jazz_general_manager_dennis_lindsey20

 

[vegas]

" Even the most novice fan can see what we did. But, look, y’know, it’s not young guys come hell or high water. We have Richard Jefferson that we’re trying to recreate his career, and we owe him a lot towards his career and responsibility to continue it. Ty’s coached him well and been honest with him, so, Richard, I think, appreciates that.

We have Brandon Rush, who we’ve gone through a long rehab [with]. We’ve been very patient and diligent — we could have rushed him back, but we didn’t physically or mentally, and I think Brandon and (his agent Mark) Bartelstein appreciate that.

Same thing with Andris Biedrins."


https://1280thezone.com/index.php/a...ow_utah_jazz_general_manager_dennis_lindsey20

Thanks Frank. You read my mind--as gonna ask if you had a link in the other thread or just heard it on the radio. If we are to take this at face value, there is a lot more to DL's plan than high draft picks. I will be watching to try and figure out more about how he sees the rebuild taking shape, because it's difficult to see any logic in anything but a tank. Is it possible that DL doesn't buy into the hype? Or is this just increasing trade value, flipping players like people flip houses?.

 

[fishonjazz]

" Even the most novice fan can see what we did. But, look, y’know, it’s not young guys come hell or high water. We have Richard Jefferson that we’re trying to recreate his career, and we owe him a lot towards his career and responsibility to continue it. Ty’s coached him well and been honest with him, so, Richard, I think, appreciates that.

We have Brandon Rush, who we’ve gone through a long rehab [with]. We’ve been very patient and diligent — we could have rushed him back, but we didn’t physically or mentally, and I think Brandon and (his agent Mark) Bartelstein appreciate that.

Same thing with Andris Biedrins."


https://1280thezone.com/index.php/a...ow_utah_jazz_general_manager_dennis_lindsey20

Wonder if kanter and burks (guys with contracts next year) appreciate it.

 

[fishonjazz]

Jefferson has played a lot of ball in the nba and given many chances by many coaches and had a great nba career..... next year some coach will give him another chance.

Its time to show some loyalty, confidence, and love to burks and kanter imo.

 

[franklin]

Wonder if kanter and burks (guys with contracts next year) appreciate it.

The players have consistently stuck behind Ty Corbin and been appreciative for his leadership. I'd guess this extends up above Corbin for the hiring. I guarantee Burks is grateful for Corbin taking him from a raw chump to a guy who deserves 26-27 minutes. Corbin's growth plan for Burks is going to make Alec a lot of money in this league.

 

[franklin]

Thanks Frank. You read my mind--as gonna ask if you had a link in the other thread or just heard it on the radio. If we are to take this at face value, there is a lot more to DL's plan than high draft picks. I will be watching to try and figure out more about how he sees the rebuild taking shape, because it's difficult to see any logic in anything but a tank. Is it possible that DL doesn't buy into the hype? Or is this just increasing trade value, flipping players like people flip houses?.

I have a serious mental block that can't see past an outright tank. Not enough faith in this group and don't see any game changers being brought in during FA. Who we gonna get, Dirk or Cermello? Bleh.

At best I see another year of acquiring more draft picks hoping to hit up a James Harden type situation.

 

[fishonjazz]

The players have consistently stuck behind Ty Corbin and been appreciative for his leadership. I'd guess this extends up above Corbin for the hiring. I guarantee Burks is grateful for Corbin taking him from a raw chump to a guy who deserves 26-27 minutes. Corbin's growth plan for Burks is going to make Alec a lot of money in this league.

I heard on a local sports radio show that burks agent had told DL that burks was upset that he was not starting.

This was early in the year so maybe things have changed but he was in fact upset about his role this season.

I bet he was pissed the other night when jeffy got 40 minutes and closed out the game in charlotte despite burks playing well. (Pure speculation on my part)

I know I was pissed. (I was at that game btw)

 

[franklin]

I heard on a local sports radio show that burks agent had told DL that burks was upset that he was not starting.

This was early in the year so maybe things have changed but he was in fact upset about his role this season.

I bet he was pissed the other night when jeffy got 40 minutes and closed out the game in charlotte despite burks playing well. (Pure speculation on my part)

I know I was pissed. (I was at that game btw)

I don't see Burks as the dumb young hothead you're making him out to sound. The Jefferson 40 was very logically explained and I'm sure a professional of Burks' caliber was smart enough to understand the lineup advantages Corbin chose.

Burks is always smiling after good performances and only speaks well of Coach. He is not mad at Corbin.

 

[vegas]

I have a serious mental block that can't see past an outright tank. Not enough faith in this group and don't see any game changers being brought in during FA. Who we gonna get, Dirk or Cermello? Bleh.

At best I see another year of acquiring more draft picks hoping to hit up a James Harden type situation.

Same strong feelings on the tank. I also have a lot of faith in DL based on the moves he has made up to this point, but I just don't see any other viable plans atm. Trying to keep an open mind..

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't see Burks as the dumb young hothead you're making him out to sound. The Jefferson 40 was very logically explained and I'm sure a professional of Burks' caliber was smart enough to understand the lineup advantages Corbin chose.

Burks is always smiling after good performances and only speaks well of Coach. He is not mad at Corbin.

You are probably right. Burks does have high character.

Seems like I have been right about burks all along and I'm sure playing jefferson for 40 minutes in some games will payoff big time for us down the line

 

[GVC]

Burks has been playing more minutes and closing more close games than Jefferson since the end of November/start of December. He's been given a lot of responsibility with the ball in his hands as well (unlike Jefferson). Seems like a pretty minor gripe.

 

[fishonjazz]

Burks has been playing more minutes and closing more close games than Jefferson since the end of November/start of December. He's been given a lot of responsibility with the ball in his hands as well (unlike Jefferson). Seems like a pretty minor gripe.

It is minor for sure.

But I still think that jefferson getting 40 minutes in any game (especially when burks is playing well) or burks getting 16 minutes in a game should NEVER happen.
(Injuries ir foul trouble being the exception)

Enes minutes going back to less than 20 per game is definately a bigger gripe

 

[Deleted member 848]

Burks has definitely grown lots. It's been exciting watching him play over the course of this season. It's especially intriguing as it's completely impossible to peg what kind of player he will be over the course of his career.

Hopefully we can hang onto him

 

[oldtimer]

Truly this may be the dumbest thing lindsey ever says. Jazz owe one thing to its players-money. Loyalty, resurrecting careers, and all other extraneous bull crap are just excuses to justify bad decisions. Jefferson played 25 mins last night and had 4 points. Even if he had played well instead of steaming crap he should never get more than 20 mins.

Kanter who has been beasting in limited time played 19 mins and had 11 points and 6 rebounds.

Jazz seem lost about the purpose of the season. Player development or resurrecting careers.

 

[Mongoose]

I just don't understand why Jefferson gets 40 minutes and Burks minutes get cut EVER. How come when the vets play like sh** they keep minutes and when the young guys play like crap they are put in the dog house like Kanter. Has Burks ever approached 40 minutes? I doubt it, and that is freaking B.S.

 

[GVC]

Truly this may be the dumbest thing lindsey ever says. Jazz owe one thing to its players-money. Loyalty, resurrecting careers, and all other extraneous bull crap are just excuses to justify bad decisions.

Bull. Relationships, with both players and agents, matter. Corbin is going to continue to use lineups he thinks give the Jazz the best chance to win games AND develop young talent. Burning bridges is not some magic franchise saver.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

" Even the most novice fan can see what we did.

Is this an outright admission that it was a tanking move, or is he suggesting that the fans should see something else?

But, look, y’know, it’s not young guys come hell or high water. We have Richard Jefferson that we’re trying to recreate his career, and we owe him a lot towards his career and responsibility to continue it. Ty’s coached him well and been honest with him, so, Richard, I think, appreciates that.

We have Brandon Rush, who we’ve gone through a long rehab [with]. We’ve been very patient and diligent — we could have rushed him back, but we didn’t physically or mentally, and I think Brandon and (his agent Mark) Bartelstein appreciate that.

Same thing with Andris Biedrins."


https://1280thezone.com/index.php/a...ow_utah_jazz_general_manager_dennis_lindsey20

Why does he feel the Jazz owe so much to these vets? It's our job to rehabilitate players that GS neglects? I get the value of creating positive relationships with agents and a good reputation with players, but I think this is too much, especially at the expense of a guy like Kanter who could definitely be playing more minutes if not for this commitment to players who clearly will not be on this team long term. It's extremely frustrating to have seen only 15 minutes of the lineup most of the fans on this board were excited for when this year began.

 

[franklin]

I just don't understand why Jefferson gets 40 minutes and Burks minutes get cut EVER. How come when the vets play like sh** they keep minutes and when the young guys play like crap they are put in the dog house like Kanter. Has Burks ever approached 40 minutes? I doubt it, and that is freaking B.S.

Because you're deluding yourself?

Richard Jefferson's minutes were cut to 11, 14, and 17 in three consecutive games. Burks has very few games in the teens, and zero consecutive.

 

[GVC]

Burks has definitely grown lots. It's been exciting watching him play over the course of this season. It's especially intriguing as it's completely impossible to peg what kind of player he will be over the course of his career.

Hopefully we can hang onto him

Yep. I still like Burks off the bench to give him (and Hayward) more opportunity with the ball in his hands (and provide the Jazz with a little more size in the starting lineup). Perhaps the most encouraging stat so far has been Alec's catch and shoot efficiency (per NBA.com's Player Tracking data). So far Alec has been 15-34 on catch and shoot 3-pointers (.441), with an overall .625 eFG% in catch and shoots (a shot from 10+ feet out, where the player holds the ball for 2 seconds or less and takes no dribbles). Marvin and RJ are .432/.574 and .415/.564, respectively. If Alec can continue to knock down those jumpers, he's going to be able to play more minutes as an off-ball player.

 

[addictionary]

I like RJ. I also liked AJ. But they would be more liked if they were towel waving mentors.