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Did you have doubts when you got married?

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Thanks guys.

Sorry cat, I did it on purpose. to hurt you. hard.

Thanks Casey. Yeah, we're both pretty lucky. I knew we would be together even before we really started dating. Very strange and incredible feeling.

To add to the thread conversation, neither of us had any doubts going into marriage. But I think that's rare. We both lived the **** out of our 20's and made sure we were ready. I think what others here have said is true. If you have one foot out the door, or if you're unsure, you should probably wait.
 
I have my doubts about the institution of marriage all together.

If it works out, you stay married for life and it is fulfilling then it has major benefits for both man and woman. Also, if both partners make similar amounts of money and participate in the kids lives equally, it can end on somewhat good terms for both parties. However, if you're in a relationship where the man makes the money and the woman takes care of the kids and the house then marriage is a trap that a woman can get out of easily but men are generally stuck providing the woman with the lifestyle she enjoyed while married, while the man gets none of the benefits the marriage once provided.

Marriage can be great. But divorce seems to be a very bad deal for men in general. Be very careful!

Did you really just say that marriage is a trap if the mother stays home with the kids? and that it's a trap that the mom can easily get out of?

If it is a "trap" then it is the person with the means of support and work experience that can easily get out of it. "In point of fact" my neighbor got told by her husband that he wanted a divorce not too long after she just had a baby(who had medical problems), and she had 2 other small children as well. So being a sahm her only alternative was to go back to live with her parents. Since they lived in another state the husband got a court order for her to return to Utah, where she had no family support, and since she couldn't get a job because she was caring for 3 small children he was awarded custody of the kids.
 
Did you really just say that marriage is a trap if the mother stays home with the kids? and that it's a trap that the mom can easily get out of?

If it is a "trap" then it is the person with the means of support and work experience that can easily get out of it. "In point of fact" my neighbor got told by her husband that he wanted a divorce not too long after she just had a baby(who had medical problems), and she had 2 other small children as well. So being a sahm her only alternative was to go back to live with her parents. Since they lived in another state the husband got a court order for her to return to Utah, where she had no family support, and since she couldn't get a job because she was caring for 3 small children he was awarded custody of the kids.


I am sure that is the whole story....
 
I'm siding with Milsapa on this one. If anyone is trapped in a one-income family, it is the stay-at-home parent.
 
Did you really just say that marriage is a trap if the mother stays home with the kids? and that it's a trap that the mom can easily get out of?

If it is a "trap" then it is the person with the means of support and work experience that can easily get out of it. "In point of fact" my neighbor got told by her husband that he wanted a divorce not too long after she just had a baby(who had medical problems), and she had 2 other small children as well. So being a sahm her only alternative was to go back to live with her parents. Since they lived in another state the husband got a court order for her to return to Utah, where she had no family support, and since she couldn't get a job because she was caring for 3 small children he was awarded custody of the kids.

Holy damn you're stupid.
 
I'm siding with Milsapa on this one. If anyone is trapped in a one-income family, it is the stay-at-home parent.

What if the stay at home parent is a stay at home parent against the wishes of their spouse? What if they don't need to stay at home at all? Or what if one partner doesn't pursue a serious and/or well paying career, instead opting for unskilled part-time work?

If it's the man who chooses that path against the wishes of his wife he is a big-time dead-beat loser. If the woman makes that choice, and it ends up breaking up the marriage, we praise her.

FYI, the biggest dispute in my marriage is that my wife doesn't want to do work that she doesn't like and wants it to fit her schedule, even though we have plenty of family support that could make her working full-time possible. I can't make her get the kind of job I know she could get. I have zero control over her decision to make 1/6th what I make (and I'm not pulling in six figures by a long stretch). If we were to split I'd be paying her a good sum because she's "sacrificed" her career ambitions for our family. She really has all the control and I'll be paying to support her no matter what. In other words, she's got me by the balls.

I love her though, don't get me wrong.
 
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What if the stay at home parent is a stay at home parent against the wishes of their spouse? What if they don't need to stay at home at all? Or what if one partner doesn't pursue a serious and/or well paying career, instead opting for unskilled part-time work?

If it's the man who chooses that path against the wishes of his wife he is a big-time dead-beat loser. If the woman makes that choice, and it ends up breaking up the marriage, we praise her.

FYI, the biggest dispute in my marriage is that my wife doesn't want to do work that she doesn't like and wants it to fit her schedule, even though we have plenty of family support that could make her working full-time possible. I can't make her get the kind of job I know she could get. I have zero control over her decision to make 1/6th what I make (and I'm not pulling in six figures by a long stretch). If we were to split I'd be paying her a good sum because she's "sacrificed" her career ambitions for our family. She really has all the control and I'll be paying to support her no matter what. In other words, she's got me by the balls.

I love her though, don't get me wrong.

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?7013-Break-in-Susan-Powell-Case

Problem solved.
 
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