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Did you have doubts when you got married?

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Dude, if you want Riley Nelson back, we will be more than happy to exchange him for Brother Turbin.

No way man, takers keepers. Seriously though, had Nelson came back I don't know if he would have played at USU. We had Borel and now we have Chuckie. My only problem with the way that whole Nelson thing went down was the fact that all the Y fans (at least the ones I talked to) acted like they had just stole Tim Tebow from us. I say you can have him. Incedently, I found the article in the Trib today about the former Logan qb who is now playing in Cali interesting. From what I heard Riley's parents basically drove him out of town so Riley's little bro could have the job at Logan High. I could be misinformed though.
 
The only reason to get married before 30 is if these two things happen at the same time:

1. The girl you are going to marry is ridiculously hot.
2. The girl you are going to marry is ridiculously good at cooking.

If she doesn't meet these two criterion simultaneously, then wait.
 
The only reason to get married before 30 is if these two things happen at the same time:

1. The girl you are going to marry is ridiculously hot.
2. The girl you are going to marry is ridiculously good at cooking.

If she doesn't meet these two criterion simultaneously, then wait.

My wife meets both criteria so that must be it.
 
You guys sound like a bunch of liberal weenies. You should go have random sex until your 35...find yourself....then get married.... have 1 child..... and then no more after that because you don't want to hog resources or breath up too much precious CO2. You can attend their high school events in your wheelchair and be dead by the time they are 20. That's the plan.

If they are breathing up our "precious CO2" they won't be living too long anyway.
 
I have my doubts about the institution of marriage all together.

If it works out, you stay married for life and it is fulfilling then it has major benefits for both man and woman. Also, if both partners make similar amounts of money and participate in the kids lives equally, it can end on somewhat good terms for both parties. However, if you're in a relationship where the man makes the money and the woman takes care of the kids and the house then marriage is a trap that a woman can get out of easily but men are generally stuck providing the woman with the lifestyle she enjoyed while married, while the man gets none of the benefits the marriage once provided.

Marriage can be great. But divorce seems to be a very bad deal for men in general. Be very careful!
 
If they are breathing up our "precious CO2" they won't be living too long anyway.

Breath up as in releasing their vile respiration into the air. I'll admit, most lefties in the US aren't quite that extreme yet, but they eventually shift into the views of "Enlightened" European liberals who are always a step or two more "progressive" than the ones here so we're almost there. See how the European press was treating David Beckham for having another kid recently, or the infamous Agenda 21 that the UN/Club of Rome is always salivating to get moving faster on for example.
 
LogGrad's timeline seems about ideal to me, although mine was much different.

I was married at 21 years old, but had known my wife since 1st grade and we had dated since we were juniors in high school. When we turned 18 we moved in together, and I landed a sales job that paid me $50k a year at 19 years old. I bought a house that same year and the rest is history. We are now going on our 9th year of marriage, and 3 kids later we are very happy.

For me, I didn't really have much to doubt. I knew my wife very well. We had lived together already and we had common goals and beliefs. I would say that any serious doubts or reservations need to thoroughly explored before any proposal of marriage.
 
To me the perfect progression would be

1. Finish high school (18 y.o.)
2. Travel and have some fun with friends or whatever
3. Go to college - or get a job (~20 y.o.)
4. Finish college and get a job - or get ahead in your job (~22-24 y.o.)
5. Along the way date and figure out what you want in a spouse.
6. Find someone who really matters to you, maybe get engaged, stay that way for a while (~24-28 y.o.)
7. Get married (~25-30+ y.o.)
8. Enjoy being married and getting to know each other for a while (~27-32+ y.o.)
9. Have kids - if you want to (~28-34+ y.o.)

I think #8 is an important step that lots of people who get married young miss out on. I know we did. We got married when I was 21 and my wife was 23. We had our first kid 11 months later. We have made it work, we have been married nearly 20 years. But the first 3 years were VERY hard because we didn't take the time to really get to know each other, and getting married, not to mention having kids, fundamentally changes who you both are.

I especially agree with #8 as well not only cause if it doesn't work out then you have to drag kids through a divorce as with my first marriage. Also as you stated even if you know each other well somethings just usually change when you get married and it is good to get to know and grow as a "married" couple because once the kids come there are somethings you can't do and even more things that are harder/complicated to do.
I wouldn't trade my kids for anything in the world but just looking back I could see how things could've been easier and it would the advice I would give others.
 
LogGrad's timeline seems about ideal to me, although mine was much different.

I was married at 21 years old, but had known my wife since 1st grade and we had dated since we were juniors in high school. When we turned 18 we moved in together, and I landed a sales job that paid me $50k a year at 19 years old. I bought a house that same year and the rest is history. We are now going on our 9th year of marriage, and 3 kids later we are very happy.

For me, I didn't really have much to doubt. I knew my wife very well. We had lived together already and we had common goals and beliefs. I would say that any serious doubts or reservations need to thoroughly explored before any proposal of marriage.

That's a cool story and I'm happy for you.

But I think it's fair to say that you are without a doubt the exception.

I'm in my late 30's and most guys I know around my age that got married before the age of 25 are either divorced or still married but concede if they had to do it over again they would not had gotten married so young. And I'm sure most of those guys felt the same connection that you did with your wife when you were 21.
 
That's a cool story and I'm happy for you.

But I think it's fair to say that you are without a doubt the exception.

I'm in my late 30's and most guys I know around my age that got married before the age of 25 are either divorced or still married but concede if they had to do it over again they would not had gotten married so young. And I'm sure most of those guys felt the same connection that you did with your wife when you were 21.


No doubt brotha... my story is the exception. Like I said, I think what LogGrad posted is probably ideal for most people.
 
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