DM on AD

[framer]

If you thought a player was going to resign, why would you even offer him a ****ing contract?

Dude don't blame me, blame the peculiarities of the English language. Why the hell would resign mean "nope the hell out?" Freaking British. . .

 

[infection]

Yes it is.

His whole point of crying like a baby over players having power is that it hurts teams. And yes, in a way it does.

If every star just decided to do 1 year deals that would hurt teams even more.

I just find it funny that the team we are all fans of, the Utah Jazz, had a star player take the opposite path. He stayed in Utah and didn't publicly demand anything. He just left.

As fans we should know first hand that Davis is doing the "moral" thing. He doesn't want to stay in New Orleans long term, he stated so publicly, then he gave a list of multiple teams he would sign with long term. He isn't refusing to play basketball games for the Pelicans.

There isn't an imbalance of power. The Pelicans have the guy for 8 years under contract. Pelicans had a long time of team control over him to make him happy by putting a good coach with him and good players. They largely failed on both fronts.

Y'all are just being morons.

I think he’s saying that they have freedom that can be exercised in the same fashion that Porzingis will do. Or the freedom for Cousins to sign a one-year minimum deal. But I’m not oneye’s spokesperson, nor am I personally invested in what it was he was trying to say, but at least to me it seemed like you were misreading that. I could be wrong.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think he’s saying that they have freedom that can be exercised in the same fashion that Porzingis will do. Or the freedom for Cousins to sign a one-year minimum deal. But I’m not oneye’s spokesperson, nor am I personally invested in what it was he was trying to say, but at least to me it seemed like you were misreading that. I could be wrong.

Lol you know the Porzingis thing was fabricated, right?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And Cousins is trash. Did you watch the Jazz/Warriors game? He was the reason the Jazz were in the game. No one was giving him a big money long term deal.

You think he signs that deal if he had real offers on the table?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think the player/team power balance is basically perfect.

Teams get to draft players and pay them super cheaply for 4 years, then they get 3-5 more years on the 2nd contract.

Then there is a window when a player becomes expiring on their 2nd contract when they have the "trade demand" power.

If anything the power is too tilted towards teams/owners.

 

[infection]

And Cousins is trash. Did you watch the Jazz/Warriors game? He was the reason the Jazz were in the game. No one was giving him a big money long term deal.

You think he signs that deal if he had real offers on the table?

Well, if we want to move back out into discussing the macro, where you said that players signing one year deals handicaps teams, then I’d say they are free to do so. I don’t think the league should step in to address that and despite it being true, I’m for it. And teams can choose whether they want to do that or not.

 

[framer]

Also I can be underwhelmed or overwhelmed, but if everything turns out just like I expected I can never be just "whelmed."

 

[framer]

And Cousins is trash. Did you watch the Jazz/Warriors game? He was the reason the Jazz were in the game. No one was giving him a big money long term deal.

You think he signs that deal if he had real offers on the table?

Well, no, not right off of an injury. There was a decent chance he didn't play at all this year. No one is going to pay full price for that. I'm also sure there were teams he just wouldn't have met with. Cousins will sign a long term, high dollar contract next year, probably with New York or New Jersey if I had to lay odds.

 

[oneye]

Lol you know the Porzingis thing was fabricated, right?

You’re the moron because you couldn’t comprehend what I was saying could you?

Every player has the choice to sign a short contract for less money, or a log contract with a lot of money and commit to a contract to stay somewhere. Understand now Cy? When you choose to sign the 5 year deal with all that luxury and security, don’t bitch before you’ve fulfilled what you committed your own damn self to.

 

[oneye]

I think the player/team power balance is basically perfect.

Teams get to draft players and pay them super cheaply for 4 years, then they get 3-5 more years on the 2nd contract.

Then there is a window when a player becomes expiring on their 2nd contract when they have the "trade demand" power.

If anything the power is too tilted towards teams/owners.

No

 

[oneye]

Well, if we want to move back out into discussing the macro, where you said that players signing one year deals handicaps teams, then I’d say they are free to do so. I don’t think the league should step in to address that and despite it being true, I’m for it. And teams can choose whether they want to do that or not.

If it’s so bad for the team why do all the players sign the max contract? Because it’s a worse bargain for them to sign that one year deal. But I digress, Sy is as he would say..... a moron.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You’re the moron because you couldn’t comprehend what I was saying could you?

Every player has the choice to sign a short contract for less money, or a log contract with a lot of money and commit to a contract to stay somewhere. Understand now Cy? When you choose to sign the 5 year deal with all that luxury and security, don’t bitch before you’ve fulfilled what you committed your own damn self to.

You're a moron. He isn't bitching. Hes saying I'm not staying past this contract, so you should trade me. He still wants to play his contract out if it comes to that. Hes helping the team.