Does Lauri Get Traded?

[HermanG]

Could be 4-5 years, but minimum is not true.

Yeah we have a lot of young prospects some of which look like they will be NBA players. We find a guy and we might see a similar turnaround Magic had within few years of that.

I'd say minimum 2-3 years being bad, but that depends on draft luck.

 

[Elizah Huge]

If Keyonte drags us to 8th, we already got our guy.

Keyonte could take us from 7th to 8th or 6th to 8th but he’s not the guy dragging us from 3rd to 8th. Now if he took us from 6th to 12th or something then we’re talking.

 

[Elizah Huge]

FWIW, next years draft 2026 is extremely strong at the top as well. I think Dybantsa is a better prospect than Flagg and Boozer is the real deal himself. Our pick is also top-8 protected next year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't know what about the last two seasons have people confident about us being a bottom 4-5 record. We've needed serious kneecapping at the trade deadline and borderline criminal "player resting" to sneak into the top 10 both years. Chicago and Brooklyn cratered, Portland is clearly worse, I don't know how anyone been be optimistic about Charlotte/Detroit, Wemby is transcendent but I think CP3 is being made into more of a difference maker at 39, etc.

And I feel we get very rosey eyed about players like Fontecchio, going into least season very few considered him a piece that could affect winning. Who knows who will pop this year.

Exactly. Last year you’d have been lol’d if you thought Tech was going to have a material impact on winning but that’s what happens if you have really good players still… those guys that fill in the gaps have an exaggerated impact. I doubt Bazley is that guy but he will be more competent than rookies and second year guys… so if coach defers to him and you bandaid that hole that was going to take you from bad to horrible that ain’t great.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I would estimate that with our current roster we would be in the 7-10th worst record by the trade deadline and then we get really disgusting and get to 5th-6th. Things can change between now and the start of the season, but this is my current prediction.

This has me thinking... what if it's so obvious that the Jazz are trying to tank that teams hold back on their best offers for Lauri at the deadline? Will be hard to get as disgusting as needed (again) and I'd rather not have to cram tanking to only get to 5th or 6th.

 

[rippimpc]

Implicit value is added to any trade by virtue of improving odds of a higher pick.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This has me thinking... what if it's so obvious that the Jazz are trying to tank that teams hold back on their best offers for Lauri at the deadline? Will be hard to get as disgusting as needed (again) and I'd rather not have to cram tanking to only get to 5th or 6th.

We won 31 games last year while getting absolutely disgusting after the break. We will not be able to cram any harder than we did last year.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Implicit value is added to any trade by virtue of improving odds of a higher pick.

Yes

 

[sip]

Does Portland currently have anyone on their team worth 3+ picks and 3+ swaps?

FWIW, I'm not sure I would say we are clearly better, but the reason we are probably better is Lauri.

Do we? I don't think Lauri has that value.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Yeah we have a lot of young prospects some of which look like they will be NBA players. We find a guy and we might see a similar turnaround Magic had within few years of that.

I'd say minimum 2-3 years being bad, but that depends on draft luck.

The average time a team misses the playoffs during a rebuild is 4-5 years, it's very rare for a team to miss the playoffs for more than 6-7 years in a row. We have already missed for 2, so missing another 2-3 years would be normal and anything more would be longer than expected.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

This has me thinking... what if it's so obvious that the Jazz are trying to tank that teams hold back on their best offers for Lauri at the deadline? Will be hard to get as disgusting as needed (again) and I'd rather not have to cram tanking to only get to 5th or 6th.

I think it's possible that's exactly what happens next year. I think you have to ask yourself would you prefer really good odds at a top 5 pick and no Lauri or a really good odds at a top 7 pick and have Lauri. That's kind of what it comes down to for me.

 

[KqWIN]

If we are actually a 7-10 team and not a 3-6 team, then there's no question. Have to trade Lauri. Lauri + tank isn't viable.