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Does Lauri Get Traded?

Does Lauri Get Dealt Before The Season Starts?

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jazznik said:
And how exactly did you calculate this "very real possibility of winning in the next 3-5 years"? At the moment the Jazz have absolutely nobody on the team (besides Lauri) who could be one of three players on not even a contender but simply a perennial playoff team. And none of the young players shows clear promise that they can become this player in 3-5 year.

Or did you mean that in 3-5 years the Jazz can conceivably make playoffs and simply making playoffs would count for winning? Again, based on what?
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Lol you forgot sexton played at an all star level at 25 years old silly.

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jazznik said:
And how exactly did you calculate this "very real possibility of winning in the next 3-5 years"? At the moment the Jazz have absolutely nobody on the team (besides Lauri) who could be one of three players on not even a contender but simply a perennial playoff team. And none of the young players shows clear promise that they can become this player in 3-5 year.

Or did you mean that in 3-5 years the Jazz can conceivably make playoffs and simply making playoffs would count for winning? Again, based on what?
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Man, 3-5 years in the NBA is an eternity. The Jazz entering the '13-14 season were in a way worse position asset-wise, drafted a bust in the 2014 draft, and were still a 2nd round team by '16-17.
 
MT Steve said:
Man, 3-5 years in the NBA is an eternity. The Jazz entering the '13-14 season were in a way worse position asset-wise, drafted a bust in the 2014 draft, and were still a 2nd round team by '16-17.
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It is but there are plenty of teams that were as bad as the Jaz, had high picks and were still bad 3-5 years later: the Timberwolves, Detroit, Hornets... And the picks take some time to develop: to become good in 3-5 years it means drafting a future star or two like next year - and they should develop unusually fast. Look at the 2021 draft: Sengun, Barnes, Cade, maybe even Green look like good picks and future All-Stars. But are the teams that drafted them 3 years ago - Toronto, Houston, Detroit - are competing for anything or even simply playoff locks?

For some reason, people are so sure that in 3-5 years the Jazz will be a strong playoff team based on nothing but blind hope and "three years is a long time!". We do not have a collection of high picks, we do not have a team committed to the all-out tank, and we don't have any super-promising young prospects. All we have is Lauri, a one-time All-Star, and most teams in the league have a player of Lauri's caliber or a young player who is likely to reach his level.

Let's be realistic, folks: so far we have nothing that promises future greatness. And Lauri knows that.
 
MT Steve said:
Man, 3-5 years in the NBA is an eternity. The Jazz entering the '13-14 season were in a way worse position asset-wise, drafted a bust in the 2014 draft, and were still a 2nd round team by '16-17.
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I think the league as a whole is also way better now than then (or at least not as top-heavy).
 
jazznik said:
It is but there are plenty of teams that were as bad as the Jaz, had high picks and were still bad 3-5 years later: the Timberwolves, Detroit, Hornets...
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The argument isn't "Every team in a bad situation becomes a winning franchise in 3-5 years". It's "Plenty of teams in far worse situations, including the Jazz themselves, have become a winning team within 3-5 years".

There's nothing delusional about thinking a team in a dramatically better spot asset-wise has a very real possibility of becoming a winning team in 3-5 years.
 
jazznik said:
And how exactly did you calculate this "very real possibility of winning in the next 3-5 years"? At the moment the Jazz have absolutely nobody on the team (besides Lauri) who could be one of three players on not even a contender but simply a perennial playoff team. And none of the young players shows clear promise that they can become this player in 3-5 year.

Or did you mean that in 3-5 years the Jazz can conceivably make playoffs and simply making playoffs would count for winning? Again, based on what?
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**** ton of Draft Picks + **** Ton of Cap Space + Danny Ainge = Very real chance

To answer your later post in the thread, none of the garbage teams you mentioned had this combination. Danny has made it work before, why wouldn’t I have hope that he could do it again?
 
David Stern said:
**** ton of Draft Picks + **** Ton of Cap Space + Danny Ainge = Very real chance

To answer your later post in the thread, none of the garbage teams you mentioned had this combination. Danny has made it work before, why wouldn’t I have hope that he could do it again?
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So, the foundation of this believe is the blind faith in Ainge. He is human. His past success was achieved by being a GM in one of the most desirable NBA markets, for a storied team. He has no experience working for a small market team in one of the worst NBA locations.

In his tenure at the Jazz he made some good moves, like trading Mitchell and Gobert for a lot of assets (although the enthusiasm from two years ago about those future MIN and CLE picks being gold decidedly subsided), but he also made quite a few questionable moves: not commiting fully either to the tank or fighting for the playoffs, drafting Collins, trading NAW, his drafting looked quite average...

Nothing is guaranteed in the NBA.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Yes, I would fully expect him to be on board with getting slimy. To some degree he already had gotten on board the last two years and still wants to extend, so we might really get the both of best worlds (Lauri + top 5 pick).
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Not to dig up the old conversation, but this is definitely something I’ve factored into my tanking calculations. If Lauri signs up to play for this franchise, he knows what the deal is. I can understand his shock/frustration with what happened this year….but even then he played ball and there will be no surprises. The direction/point of the season will not be ambiguous even if he’s on the roster, and that’s true from day 1….not trade deadline.
 
KqWIN said:
Speaking of teams that are desperate, are the Lakers just not going to do anything to improve?
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They are gonna sell alot of tickets and make history - first father and son teamates in the league. Then bron is gonna recruit his son for team usa- first father and son in olympics. Then they gonna draft his other kid after 2 years. Jeannie buss is gonna be super rich
 
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