Does Lauri Get Traded?

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Flip has one good summer league and @Thee Idiotic Minivan K

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Just wait. How many of these big talented playmaking bigs are out there, the ones that are there all play for the best offenses in the league, none of them move as free and easy with the ball in hand. Hell I wish Cody moved this free and easy with the ball.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Sorry to interrupt the important discussion going on but I will gladly take Kuminga if the Warriors insist on keeping Podz.

It has to be one of them included.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just wait. How many of these big talented playmaking bigs are out there, the ones that are there all play for the best offenses in the league, none of them move as free and easy with the ball in hand. Hell I wish Cody moved this free and easy with the ball.

Cody has had a couple nice crossover moves in SL. He moves very well with the ball but gets moved off his position a little because he's so light. I've been impressed with him. You need to balance yesterday's Flip with the one that looked like a Shaqtin highlight reel for a while. He is more comfortable now but it won't always look as fluid as it did yesterday.

 

[KqWIN]

There’s a lot to it. Guys that play well with others and are in their 20s will still get paid. See OG Anunoby.

There’s got to be a non-zero chance that Anunoby contract ends up in regret.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There’s got to be a non-zero chance that Anunoby contract ends up in regret.

For sure. It all comes down to health imo for OG and Lauri. If Lauri extends and plays like 70 games (or would have if we weren't doing tank management) then his value is the same or higher. Ingram has the health issues combined with the "doesn't necessarily play well with others" issues.

I also think teams are somewhat over-reacting. The Clips have been blasted for not retaining PG. Some of the contracts are going to look really good because teams got really conservative. I think next year things may not be as tight.

 

[KqWIN]

Sorry to interrupt the important discussion going on but I will gladly take Kuminga if the Warriors insist on keeping Podz.

It has to be one of them included.

It’s somewhat unclear if how much of Kuminga’s lack of inclusion comes from the Warriors or Jazz. The thing about Podz and Kuminga is that they are both very young and both already good role players on a winning team. Those guys are going to have more value to teams trying to win something or are further along than the Jazz. I don’t think Kuminga is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I do have the capacity to see why one might think he has lots of potential. If we get him, I’d be ok with that. If we got his weight in picks (in a 3 teamer with TOR for example), I’d also be happy with that.

Podz is going to be extremely tough because he has good role player written all over him and 3 years left on his rookie deal. Of course that guy is going to have more value to a competing team than a tanking team.

 

[KqWIN]

For sure. It all comes down to health imo for OG and Lauri. If Lauri extends and plays like 70 games (or would have if we weren't doing tank management) then his value is the same or higher. Ingram has the health issues combined with the "doesn't necessarily play well with others" issues.

I also think teams are somewhat over-reacting. The Clips have been blasted for not retaining PG. Some of the contracts are going to look really good because teams got really conservative. I think next year things may not be as tight.

Lauri has never played 70 games in his career. I know there is some divine intervention at play, but it’s still not the greatest look. His injury record isn’t as bad as Ingram, but can’t say it’s the greatest either.

If he’s here, our plan would be to be as awful as possible and that worries me somewhat. Lauri plays well with others, the others he will be playing with are going to suck by design so you would have to expect that this has some effect on Lauri’s production. We shouldn’t act surprised if he looks worse when we intentionally put him in basketball hell.

R+E and then trade him later is still in play, but like I said there is some percentage chance that contract becomes iffy and suddenly that falls apart. It’s some small percentage, but a non-zero chance nonetheless and we’d have to consider that possibility.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Cody has had a couple nice crossover moves in SL. He moves very well with the ball but gets moved off his position a little because he's so light. I've been impressed with him. You need to balance yesterday's Flip with the one that looked like a Shaqtin highlight reel for a while. He is more comfortable now but it won't always look as fluid as it did yesterday.

Only thing that I'm concerned with on Williams is that he has no activity on the boards. I was hoping at Colorado it was just a matter of maybe everyone else was so good at rebounding he didnt have to, but he really just doesnt track the ball at all.

 

[HermanG]

Sorry to interrupt the important discussion going on but I will gladly take Kuminga if the Warriors insist on keeping Podz.

It has to be one of them included.

I think Kuminga and all of the picks is a possibility. Lauri would anyways cut into his minutes and they got Wiggins who they could theoretically count as a win-now piece in the front court.

I love Podz but I think his ceiling is super high end role player. As lovable as he is, him and Lauri as the post-Curry core is at least lacking "that guy", and at that point I'm not sure they are willing to mortgage more of their future to add to that core.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Only thing that I'm concerned with on Williams is that he has no activity on the boards. I was hoping at Colorado it was just a matter of maybe everyone else was so good at rebounding he didnt have to, but he really just doesnt track the ball at all.

I'm just enjoying him tbh. I wasn't a big fan. He was right there on my big board but had concerns. Happy enough with what I see just to smile and be happy.

 

[NUMBERICA]

It's annoying when you are the leading Stan of a player then someone comes in and out-Stans you in a way that is impossible to contend with.

I believe it was Thee that came out of nowhere and was like 'Ochai is if Klay Thompson was athletic' or some insane non-sense of the sort.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Kuminga and all of the picks is a possibility. Lauri would anyways cut into his minutes and they got Wiggins who they could theoretically count as a win-now piece in the front court.

I love Podz but I think his ceiling is super high end role player. As lovable as he is, him and Lauri as the post-Curry core is at least lacking "that guy", and at that point I'm not sure they are willing to mortgage more of their future to add to that core.

Podz has a chance to be something more. He follows that mold of role guy that might have more. At very least he is a good role player that is cheap for the next three years. If GS retains Kuminga it could put them in a salary bind. Podz/Key is kind of a wonky fit for now but figure it out as you go.

I wonder if there is a way to loop in another team we send Sexton or Kessler too and send a win-now piece to GS. I don't want to compromise on the picks or Podz myself IF Lauri is willing to extend and is happy here (as is reported).