Does Lauri Get Traded?

[KqWIN]

Lavine makes no sense while having both DLo and Reeves. You cant get assets for DLo on an expiring, so it's kind of out of the question to get LaVine.

Ingram would be a good option, but why would NOLA want any of the players they could offer? The Lakers salary matches are complete meh at best, (Rui/Vincent/Vanderbilt at a combined 38 million).

Lavine would only be coming in if DLO is being sent out. I'm not actually sure if Lavine wins you more games during the RS due to his health issues....but in theory is a good fit with LeBron.

NOLA would consider it because Lakers can put good picks on the table. Ingram's cost doesn't seem very high atm.

 

[KqWIN]

Kuminga is a wildcard, he would see a significant usage uptick in a Jazz uni. That could lead us to tankers paradise or lead us to the next Lauri. Both are great outcomes for us.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

A thing with Kuminga too, you can't sit a guy trying to earn himself a max contract if he isn't legitimately injured.

If we got him the last thing I'd be worried about is him taking a leap and ruining a tank. It would have to be a massive leap and he'd likely have proved to be worth the max... so you could shut him down on the promise of taking care of him in the offseason.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Kuminga is a wildcard, he would see a significant usage uptick in a Jazz uni. That could lead us to tankers paradise or lead us to the next Lauri. Both are great outcomes for us.

Might put up good fake numbers while piloting the tank and earn a contract that outsizes his true production. Still a win and hopefully we dig in because he is RFA.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we got him the last thing I'd be worried about is him taking a leap and ruining a tank. It would have to be a massive leap and he'd likely have proved to be worth the max... so you could shut him down on the promise of taking care of him in the offseason.

Again, I'm not saying a Kuminga leap would ruin the tank, but it could keep you out of the bottom 4/5.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Again, I'm not saying a Kuminga leap would ruin the tank, but it could keep you out of the bottom 4/5.

That would still be a great outcome if we ended up 6th/7th because Kuminga was essentially 85% of what Lauri is/was.

If we can remove one vet I think our minutes would essentially be 50/50 between developing 1st and 2nd years players and functional NBA players and I think we'd be pretty rough. If we removed Lauri I think we are firmly in pole position with the Wiz/Nets for worst team in the league. If Kuminga takes you from that group to the next tier then I have no issue paying him and having him. I think its very unlikely of course.

 

[KqWIN]

Might put up good fake numbers while piloting the tank and earn a contract that outsizes his true production. Still a win and hopefully we dig in because he is RFA.

My concern with Kuminga would be that he's being overvalued in the trade....but that does not seem to be the case.

I'm just not worried about the other stuff too much. On some level we have to have faith in the FO to make the correct follow up decisions going forward. Let him test the market, even if it results in him walking....it's not tragic. You have to have some confidence in DA's ability to make the right decision about not overpaying and DA's ability to leverage something out a situation where Kuminga does receive a big offer from another team.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My concern with Kuminga would be that he's being overvalued in the trade....but that does not seem to be the case.

I'm just not worried about the other stuff too much. On some level we have to have faith in the FO to make the correct follow up decisions going forward. Let him test the market, even if it results in him walking....it's not tragic. You have to have some confidence in DA's ability to make the right decision about not overpaying and DA's ability to leverage something out a situation where Kuminga does receive a big offer from another team.

I have hope there... I don't have a ton of faith though. Not that I completely distrust them. There is a reason Kuminga is a bit of a conundrum right now on the market. I think teams are seeing lately that the RFA on these guys is not something to be terrified of... so let them get there and don't be afraid to dig in. But there are always a few surprises that make you wonder how professionals didn't read the landscape correctly.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

TBH, my preference would still be to route Kuminga to a 3rd team and get more draft capital to ensure maximum suckage. Just not a huge believer and think he could operate as a floor raiser who is hard to fit into a winning team context. If I'm trading Lauri, I want to guarantee that we are a bottom 3 team, not hoping we are.

Just because Kuminga might get us with a few wins of the same outcome with Lauir doesnt mean he is 80% of Lauri. The appeal of Lauri is he fits any team you build. You get Flagg and you have Lauri, you are cooking with gas. You get Flagg and you have Kuminga, is Kuminga really giving you the value of a max player while being paid like one? I'm unconvinced.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

TBH, my preference would still be to route Kuminga to a 3rd team and get more draft capital to ensure maximum suckage. Just not a huge believer and think he could operate as a floor raiser who is hard to fit into a winning team context. If I'm trading Lauri, I want to guarantee that we are a bottom 3 team, not hoping we are.

I just can't find the right third team that makes sense. I wouldn't worry about the floor really just that he is an asset with a potential expiration date before he might be a liability. I would tend to agree if we could get a first for him I'd take that.

 

[KqWIN]

I have hope there... I don't have a ton of faith though. Not that I completely distrust them. There is a reason Kuminga is a bit of a conundrum right now on the market. I think teams are seeing lately that the RFA on these guys is not something to be terrified of... so let them get there and don't be afraid to dig in. But there are always a few surprises that make you wonder how professionals didn't read the landscape correctly.

I don't think the concern level should be zero....but if there was ever a time to take this kind of financial "risk"....it would be when you're tanking your face off and much of your roster is on rookie contracts. Some players will eventually need extensions....but when your biggest concern is young players playing well enough to earn lots of money, it's hardly a concern in the first place. I get why a team like GSW would be sqeamish given their financial situation and pressure to win immediately. Jazz would be on the complete opposite end of things.

If we can reroute him to a third team and get decent picks back, I'm all for it. But I'm definitely not afraid of Kuminga being too good and I think we would be in a good position to see how he develops. Same goes for Moody. Those two players are problematic for GSW's cap situation, but I would welcome them here.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just can't find the right third team that makes sense. I wouldn't worry about the floor really just that he is an asset with a potential expiration date before he might be a liability. I would tend to agree if we could get a first for him I'd take that.

So if this is true, that finding a 3rd team that would give us a quality first is not possible, then why in the hell would we want to take Kuminga in a deal? IF he has such little value now on a rookie contract, what's going to happen if you have to pay him a substantial contract based off empty production on a tanker?